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  No, it is cost cutting at the vulnerable edge. Of course there are different income levels in the elderly population as in any other population, but the principle should remain that we offer a good and decent quality of life to our elders, whatever. The means-testing mind set of the (particularly) blue-tinged political wings is demeaning and divisive. Clearly there will be inequalities given the diversity within the demographic, but what the hey - our society should suck it up and value and cherish our elders. I don't think they or we should be grateful that a centre used by elders gets a new kitchen and perhaps some mugs out of whcih to drink their tea, grateful for free bus travel, or grateful to have our support. And as has been pointed out - unliike our alleged betters in Westminster, many elders voluntarily pay their way because they have a genuine social conscience and a wish to serve their community best.

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