ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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So UK politics biggest charlatan has funked off to his bolthole (whereabouts unknown) rather than attend today's vote. This despite his assertion that he would lay down in front the the bulldozers.
Does anyone still wonder why our youth despise and distrust politicians so much?
And he could be our next PM. There's a thought.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I can't see him ever getting the top job now, he had a spell as Mayor of London where he came across as a jovial eccentric but I don't remember him achieving very much. Since then he has shown himself as devious and self serving and the PM cleverly promoted him to Foreign Secretary knowing that he would not be up to the job, thus effectively ending his ambitions.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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We may disagree on many things, Howard, but on this account I think you've hit the nail right on the head. However, stranger things could happen with the Tories in their current state of disarray.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The bookies are the best judges in these matters Ray and they have JRM 4/1 favourite to be next PM followed by Jezza at 9/2 with Johnson out at 9/1. The Home Secretary at 7/1 sounds like a good bet.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Courtesy of the Times.
File this under “tweets you don’t expect from former permanent secretaries at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office”: “Is there Cabinet Office guidance on how long former @foreignoffice permanent secretaries have to go on biting their tongue about @BorisJohnson?” Granted, Sir Simon Fraser, formerly perm sec at thperhaps, quite as he might like to be. He cannot help himself, demanding a “full British Brexit” — whatever that means — and, reportedly, responding to business concerns about a no-deal outcome with the pithy and entirely grown-up comeback, “F*** business”.
To think that he once seemed likely to be prime minister. Mr Johnson’s moment has been and gone. His goose is cooked. And you sense that he must know it too. His supporters — which is to say his former supporters — at Westminster certainly think so. Ask them about Mr Johnson’s leadership aspirations and you will receive a look that says nothing so much as, “Ah, come on, let’s be serious about these things”A reminder too, if it were really needed, that the wheels are off the government bus. Theresa May is not known as a sadist but there is an exquisite cruelty about keeping Mr Johnson in place at the Foreign Office. The FCO has become a gilded cage for a moulting bird of paradise. Granted, this comes at a price, chiefly the diminishment of what was once one of the great offices of state, but for a government in which survival is the chief order of business this is a price worth paying. The country’s mileage may differ but that’s not the prime minister’s principal concern.
Weird Granny Slater
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Oh, we should cut the poor fellow some slack. With all the principles politicians take on nowadays actually invoking one must be rather like sorting through your old books before downsizing: there are those browned and dog-eared two or three you really couldn't do without, but of the remainder the majority are ones you've never opened but which you thought made you seem hip once, and the rest you held onto either because you thought they might have a valuable practical use, say for propping up a wonky table, or because they were long overdue and you were too embarrassed to return them.
Of couse, he could be taking advantage of the Afghan health service and having his backbone replaced.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Brian Dixon
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yeah try getting out of this,. lol
Button
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Come on guys, be fair: there are Boris buses and Boris bikes and even Arthur Dent didn't lay down in front of the bulldozers for ever!
(Not my real name.)
Jan Higgins
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:The bookies are the best judges in these matters Ray and they have JRM 4/1 favourite to be next PM followed by Jezza at 9/2 with Johnson out at 9/1. The Home Secretary at 7/1 sounds like a good bet.
I favour our Home Secretary out of that lot, at least he seems to get things done as well as having the correct personality.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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I quite enjoy Boris and his ongoing efforts to get sacked, and the Prime Minister bantering him brilliantly by not taking the bait.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45201308 20,000 quid! I can only imagine that would be insurance cover excess with him being a Bullingdon Boy and them having to serve a meal on the flight.
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Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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We missed a trick at the time by not doing an exchange with the Afghans, they keep Boris and we get the head of the Taleban as the new Foreign Secretary, that would have put the wind up Barnier.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Courtesy of the Sunday Times.
Boris Johnson is at the centre of a new row over racism after an investigation into online abuse revealed his official Facebook page hosts hundreds of Islamophobic messages. Under entries that publicise Johnson’s articles and speeches, the MP’s followers left comments including calls to ban Islam and deport Muslims, as well as vile attacks on the mayor of London, Sadiq Khan. Among the remarks on the former foreign secretary’s official Facebook page are calls for “no Muslims in government, police or army”.
One post reads: “That’s crazy to trust them. They are just waiting for the Jihad signal to turn on us. Another tells the Conservative MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip: “Come on Boris, you had the bottle to start getting rid of these bloody muslims, just like Enoch [Powell] wanted to rid us of all yer bloody c**ns!” The comments were uncovered as part of a Sunday Times investigation into online abuse. In addition to Johnson’s official Facebook page, it found thousands of offensive comments on 10 Facebook groups run by supporters of Johnson and fellow Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg, whose members include Tory councillors, officials and agents.
Ruth Davidson, the Tory leader in Scotland, led criticism of his remarks, and others warned that “dog-whistle” politics would encourage attacks on Muslims. L ast night, a senior minister said Johnson’s remarks on the burqa had given others the green light to express Islamophobic views. “It’s always the risk when you start to mock Islam.” The party’s inquiry, which could end this week, triggered fury from Johnson’s supporters. Last week, Rees-Mogg denounced it as a “show trial” and suggested its aim was to stop Johnson becoming the next Conservative leader. The exposure of the posts comes as a Tory minister, Nusrat Ghani, reveals today that she was stalked for two years by a man who targeted her because she was a female Muslim MP.
In April, the Sunday Times revealed a host of anti-semitic posts on closed sites supporting Jeremy Corbyn, whose members included 12 senior staff working for the Labour leadership. Last night the Muslim Council of Britain called for a “full and transparent” investigation into Islamophobia in the Conservative Party and for the police to investigate the comments. “Boris’s remarks have clearly inflamed tensions,” said spokesman Miqdaad Versi, adding that they “shone light on a simmering underbelly of ugly Islamophobia within the Conservative party”.
While Facebook is responsible for removing offensive posts, the administrators of groups are able to report or delete comments, but Johnson and his team appear not to have done so. Facebook says it does not permit hate speech, defining it as direct attacks on people based on race, ethnicity, religious affiliation or other protected characteristics. The Sunday Times investigation found that Johnson’s burqa comments were quickly embraced by an online audience of Conservative Facebook groups. Together they have more than 20,000 members. Although comments on sites such as Johnson’s personal page are open to all Facebook users, some, including the “Boris Johnson: Support Group” and “Moggmania”, are restricted.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Boris lashing out as he sees his leadership hopes slipping away with a dossier on his antics likely to surface.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45462900howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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What does Alan Duncan know that would bring down Boris?
"Alan Duncan, a foreign minister who worked in Mr Johnson's team for two years, wrote on Twitter: "For Boris to say the PM's view is like that of a suicide bomber is too much. This marks one of the most disgusting moments in modern British politics.
"I'm sorry, but this is the political end of Boris Johnson. If it isn't now, I will make sure it is later."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/boris-johnson-disgusting-criticism-theresa-may-conservative-row-chequers-plan-suicide-vest-a8529621.htmlray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Even his understanding of a suicide bomber doesn't really make sense to me. If it involved a hand held detonator the surely that would be in the hand of the protagonist for the analogy to work. Perhaps the poor boy spent too long in Brussels and gets confused as to where he is.
Reginald Barrington
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I think his analogy was being a little cleverer than you suggest Ray,
I took it that we are putting the vest on but will not be able to choose when to set it off.
Arte et Marte
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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It was typical Boris Johnson, designed only to ensure people are talking about.... Boris Johnson. Indeed, I am mildly annoyed at myself for typing this.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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neil say 3 hail marys ,and mines a pint down the tun.you will be forgiven.