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    Neil
    You are a realist I hope a little more than our Brian .

    For labour to get anywhere near winning they have to hold the seats they presently have ,
    Win in Scotland
    Win back seats up north..
    Win in Wales.

    I'm afraid if my area is anything to go by and listening to people across the country this just isnt going to happen .

    Not because people don't recognise how poor this govt is, but because they don't trust labour either

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