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    Firstly apologies to Keith I must admit I hadn't heard of Philip Davies before - must learn to keep up.

    Secondly I agree with everything Ralph has posted, the penultimate paragraph sums up the situation regarding where big business and media loyalties lie.

    Thirdly the final paragraph is the worrying bit as I believe there has to be just the one "Out" group or the public will be turned off by rival factions.

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