howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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3 December 2009
21:5634300n the news tonight that the "sisters of mercy" order of nuns(rather an ironic name) have agreed to pay £.117 million as compensation to their victims.
i always thought that monks and nuns lived spartan existences as an example to the population.
where do they get such money from?
there are people in our country that have to go cap in hand to get their moats cleaned out.
Ross Miller
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3 December 2009
22:2034302"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
DT1- Location: Dover
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3 December 2009
23:2134305Horrific behaviour and made worse by the actions of a collective (within a religion) rather than a corupt individual.
Where do they get their money from? umm...the Catholic Church, wealth created through fear, isn't it always. Careful selection of gospels to reinforce a doctrine of salvation through the church. This is not to say that they are wrong, but merely that this construct should be questioned.
Having lived in the Republic of Ireland and having may Irish friends (obviously I respect the views of the Irish contingent on this forum) I have heard so many primary accounts of this hate for fellow human beings that I totally understand the disillusionment towards the Catholic Church in the country. Many Priests, Nuns are contibutng towards the rejection of faith and the worry should be what this void is filled with!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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3 December 2009
23:2734306spot on dt. there is a void left by the actions of a body that so much trust was placed in.
thankfully the authorities in ireland are being very unforgiving in this and are intent on hounding the culprits however late in the day it is.
can we expect the same in other religious countries like spain and italy?
the truth does eventually come out, too late for the victims, but good for the rest of us to know that justice is served.
DT1- Location: Dover
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3 December 2009
23:3334307"can we expect the same in other religious countries like spain and italy?
the truth does eventually come out, too late for the victims, but good for the rest of us to know that justice is served"
Let's hope so!
4 December 2009
08:1634312They can afford it, chaps, because they took out insurance against being found out. Yes, rather than spend time and money protecting children and finding justice for victims, the Church took out expensive insurance against future law suits. Nice one, Rome. I am a Catholic, I find comfort and intellectual satsifaction in Catholicism, I am comfortable with the rituals and routines, the potential to question and delve into Spritiuality that I have not yet found in other religions - having been brought up a Catholic i am not, however, impartial! Childhood rituals embed. But that does not mean I am unable to deplore the devious and perverted way in which my Church colluded to destroy childhood for so many people. Shame on them and shame on their ethos. Now they can start to make some amends. It matters, though, that we also remember the positive things the Church and individuals in it can create.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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4 December 2009
09:0234315Yes I was staggered too at the amount of money The Sisters of Mercy seem to have at their disposal...I think the announcement came in Euro Terms and even sounded more shocking Euro137Million. Staggering. As Bern says there..and I wasnt aware..that it was insurance money, but nevertheless these various Orders of nuns priests and whathaveyou seem very rich anyway.
The slave-ish capitulation to all things Clergy years ago in Ireland was frightening. A whole new braver generation of population was needed before these horrific goings on could be brought to light. We seem to have reached there now. But once upon a time the sheer adulation offered to the local priest was...well I dont know the word...but tooo much. All the eternally headscarfed women were particularly affected and as they were the matriachal backbone of the community, the Church weilded an awesome yoke of power. Although politicians at some point must have been aware of the widespread practises no one dared challenge it. The newer generation of ordinary people spoke out, perhaps fuelled by the successes in America. Although the American society was nothing like as strangled as ours in Ireland.