Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,874
I thought that the global warming excuse had been knocked on the head and it was now agreed it is a weather pattern to do with sun spots.
The reason I recycle is that I do not want any more landfill sites than are absolutely necessary, there are only so many 'holes' that can be filled, that point is very well made by Tom.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I've just completed that survey, but disappointed that I hadn't heard of it through some other means.
I answered no to some of the questions so I could give a view/opinion. I do hope they take notice of those views.
There wasn't any suggestion of making a charge for domestic waste.
Roger
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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I think recycling is a common sense thing for many reasons, end to landfill etc.
Sorry Phillip, global warming not one of my reasons though.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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I don't know why people are so worried about landfill. It's not as if there is a shortage of holes in the ground. Currently there are 11 years worth of space to dump our rubbish in the ground in the UK and that increases every year.
My only guess is that people have been persuaded by environmentalists that for some reason landfill is bad and take this to heart without question, without thinking.
In the same way that butter is bad for you (yes people still believe that margarine is the healthy option regardless of the evidence) the word "landfill" is now a word which implies something evil, something to dread.
World gone mad I tell you, world gone mad.
Not evil, Philip, just foolish and unnecessary. You don't have to be an environmentalist to see that landfills are not the best option. One wouldn't want to over-react..........
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Dear Philip. It is human nature perhaps that when one ash-tray is full we just get another ash-tray...then another...and another. For preposterous it would surely be to think that we, the masters of all we survey, could ever run out of ash-trays.
And so we sit, puffing away contentedly. The health and environmental issues need never detain us, just as long as the supply of ash-trays is seen as never ending.
Alas and alack! Although we are the masters of all we survey it is inescapable that we share that honour with our fellow humans, with our neighbours. Our neighbours may read newspapers, they may eat lots of sweets and chocolates. No ash-trays for they, oh no. They need waste-paper baskets in much the same way we need ash-trays...when one is full they too pop off and obtain the next one and the next one...
The world rolls around regardless.
BUT
We must, to be fair, give thought to just where these ash-trays and litter-bins come from. We know and revel in the fact that tobacco, sugar, chocolate, paper and wicker (for the baskets) not only grow naturally, but are indeed cultivated...you can see them growing in the fields if we stand atop a step ladder to gaze over Mount Ash-Tray and scan beyond waste-basket ridge.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,874
Phillip, all I will say is would you want a landfill site next door to you and what happens in 11years time when they are full.
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Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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PhillipP.
People have explained why they are against landfill and I am sorry to say it has nothing to do with shortage of holes, or that we have been persuaded by environmentalists, or posted without thinking.
Butter has nothing to do with landfill.
As for 11 years' worth of space for landfill, I am more interested in the 200 years of coal that is lying beneath our feet.
If you think the world has gone mad because most people do not want to bury their rubbish, when it could be put to good use, then I think it is you that is not thinking too well.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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Recycling is also about more than not having enough holes in the ground. It's about using less energy than needed to make the same product from brand new raw materials (so cheaper), conserving natural resources so scarce materials last longer, and preventing pollution from some of the things we stick in the ground. It does have the unfortunate side effect that Time Team 2512 will be pretty a boring program.
I agree with Philip about wind farms though - most of them will take 10 or 15 years to produce more energy than is used to manufacture them (if they last that long), and are no good for producing energy at some of the times when we most need it.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,874
I agree about wind farms, not enough wind they can not work, too much wind they can not work.
Out of the 'natural' choices wave and water power seem the best but who knows what problems they would have regardless of their cost.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
i would go with nuclear power stations simply because they are proven to deliver our energy needs.
