Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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Keith, I do not think Maggie hated the men who actually did the work she might well have hated their union leaders though as some were very allied to Russia and they were the enemy at that time.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I have also done one for this post but put it in Politics or none,so if you wish to read it please look into that one thank you.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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not got the facility to move it over vic.
Keith Sansum1
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maggie hated miners in general
you had to be there to realise it
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I think Jan is nearer the truth - much nearer.
Roger
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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roger;
Your leanings/beliefs would make yoyu think that way
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Sorry Keith, I have to disagree with your statement#44. She hated what they stood for, links with Russia and the communist party.
One of our customers at the time of the strike was a union official and a communist making several visits to Russia when the country was not a country ordinary people visited.
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Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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Roger
I believe that these industries did not fit in with her model of the UK which she preferred to be hi-tech and based around financial services and IT. I am sure a comparison of the sectors in 1979 and 1997 will bear this out.
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Many people think that because miners were strong activists in fighting for better pay and conditions in their Collieries, they were also strong unionist and politically minded.
The truth is, when things were going right in their pits, the majority of miners neither cared about union meetings or about politics. They were far happier working a full week and getting together and having a chat over a pint or two in the club.
They did not want or deserve to be brought into that war or to be told they were the "enemy within".
I don't think people have ever truly understood the majority of miners. Working down our mines was no ordinary job; it had unique skills and conditions that only some could take on.
The sense of pride from being a miner and belonging to a mining community, far outweighed wages in importance and close second came with protecting their mines, for their future and for the continuance of their culture.
They were proud to be in an industry that served the people of this country and to be told they were the "Enemy Within" and to be treated like whipping boys was disgusting and abhorrent.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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garyc
I agree and thank you for your kind posts and the true story of the miners in general.
i was suprized how large the membership of the tory party was.
most uninterested in politics/unions etc
certainly not a battle they wanted,
thankyou for that posting
you do tend to forget those evil words of maggie
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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It was Railways aswell and I lost my job to.Please read my post about it.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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presume that means summat vic but i dare not ask
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Gary C your post rings so true
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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Gary
it was good to meet you tonight and thanks again for posting about this; I wouldn't have known about if you hadn't.
A modest audience was treated to an excellent and powerful play which was well written, directed and acted. It wasn't a celebration of Scargill, or of Thatcher's death, but a moving account of human greed, need and frailty.
I understand this was its first public performance before going to Edinburgh next week for the month long festival. I will look out for the reviews but am sure it will be well received.
The cast, production team and writer happily chatted afterwards too making it a very intimate occasion.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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good to hear it went well mark, sorry to hear it wasn't well attended?
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Gary,
Sorry I could not be there.Is it being perform any where at the moment or is there a CD?
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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It was good to meet you too Mark. It was a shame more did not come along as I am sure it would have surprised them all.
It was excellent, great acting and very factual, which held the surprise for me.
The play has been in the making since well before the miners' strike of 1972 and so has been extensively researched.
They were happy with the numbers there and were really pleased with the reception they received and response they got, after the play.
I did discuss with them about the possibility of taking the play on tour after the Edinburgh Festival, which they seemed to be keen on but have not considered yet, so I will keep you informed of any information I receive.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I was pleased to hear your voice on Radio Kent this morning Gary, all good publicity.
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Gary, I am genuinely unhappy to have missed it. I work long hours away from Dover, sadly, and it does get in the way of a normal life! Any information about alternative ways to see it would be welcome, DVDs etc and I may be able to see it if it is in Edinburgh if I pay my cards right and time jobs properly!
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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Bern, If you let me know that you can make it to Edinburgh, I will do my best to get you a ticket, I can assure you it is well worth seeing and seeing it in Edinburgh you will have one over me.
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