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24 January 2010
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Read that Darwins Universe A-Z book down the library Bern, it`s not just evolution, it has a host of topics including religious bits, and human interest stories, like poor Dian Fossey, who spent much time with mountain gorilla`s, including a great silverback male who she became so freindly with. He was subsequently butchered by poachers, decapitated and had his hands cut off, and Fossey had a mental breakdown because of it and went into obscurity. But she came back, and whilst in her hut one night in gorilla country, she was murdered by a machete armed intruder. Anyway, a great read, and I got my own copy the other day, only published last year.
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24 January 2010
20:1538675i read that about ms fossey, i believe it became a tv programme too.
wasn't it the rwandan mountain gorillas that she moved in with?
wonderful creatures, suffered needlessly because civil wars raging around them.
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24 January 2010
20:2038681One of our closest relatives Howard. Those gorilla`s deserve life more than any of that scum in Rwanda. This is where I don`t put any value whatsoever on some human life.
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25 January 2010
00:2038721Caught this programme on C4 this evening; "The Bible: A History", part 1 of a series of 7. Made for interesting viewing over supper!
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-bible-a-historyPhil West
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29 January 2010
15:3039079In the 1870s, everyone with money wanted the newly invented telephone in their house. Charles Darwin, to our everlasting benefit, refused to have one, and continued to write and recieve letters, many of which survive today. Do many people write letters today?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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29 January 2010
19:1339100sorry to say i do everything by e mail, if i tried to write anything now it is unreadable.
too long now with typewriters, word processors and now computers.
30 January 2010
12:3139136I agree with Bern. Why do evolution and God have to be mutually exclusive? I read somewhere that we (i.e. all primates) evolved from little squirrel-like creatures. for myself - I like to think I evolved from a meerkat. I'm certainly nosy enough!
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30 January 2010
13:2139137As a religious person, I could understand God and evolution being mutually exclusive, but at the same time, I can understand a non religious person looking at both as being not mutually exclusive. In my case, I am always opened minded, but I`ll only believe in what is known today, that wasn`t known centuries ago, and that if it was, the whole of religion would have been in a different form today. My argument, and my reasons for these posts on here are not to stir up any, `you`re wrong I`m right` replies, but mainly to draw attention to the fact that religion is being misused for the wrong things, and also that in the U.S., individuals are raking in millions of dollars, building expensive churches, trying to treat Darwinism as a myth and doing away with science in the American education system. I`ve always steered clear of religion, and let people get on with it and do their own thing. However, it does disturb me, and I know some members of the church of England are getting disturbed at these fanatics overseas who are distorting established fact. DIANA, I can imagine you and Bern with your heads popping up at this post like a little pair of meerKat`s.
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30 January 2010
13:4039140How did you guess??!! Shared nosiness and curiosity - I'm with you Diana!!
I am religious, in that I have a faith, but it really is, exactly as you say Colin, in the conversation that we have that the insights are gained. Not in the point scoring or the definition of right or wrong, but in the discussion and debates. I don't think I am right - or wrong, Rick!! You know who you are!! - and I don't think anyone else is either. I think we are all on a journey of discovery and have different pathways. Eh up, I've come over all existential.........I must lie down.
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30 January 2010
17:4139149Ken Ham, ever heard of him? With donations, he has spent $27 million dollars on a vast site to show that Darwinism doesn`t exist, the Earth is only 10,000 years old, and in one display, he has humans living alongside the dinosaurs! Frightning isn`t it, when educated people, turn their back on proven science and then create a fantasy world where they`re so obsessed with religion, that they use it for their own ends. Just click his name on the internet, and view his site, and draw your own conclusions. I`d be interested to hear your views, but not slagging off religion, as this is a totally different kettle of fish.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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30 January 2010
18:5339153i can certainly think where 27 million dollars can be better spent.
even victor does not have that amount for his election campaign.
will check out that website later colin, sounds like fun.
30 January 2010
20:0739166Diane Fossey, played by Sigourney Weaver in the film: Gorilla's in the Mist.
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30 January 2010
20:4839169tell you the truth sid, i never saw the film, so never connected up ms fossey with it.
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30 January 2010
22:1439178Any relation to Dennis (Mr Dillon), Weaver Sid? P. S. Nice to see Muffin again.
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8 February 2010
18:0340032This posting would be equally at home on the Gurkhas`s or Holocaust post`s, (a comment on there regarding joining together). This facinating book above mention`s Joseph Hooker, (Darwin`s best freind), who went to India in 1850/51 on a plant collecting expedition. Whilst near the border of Tibet, a certain rajah, who was hired by the Chinese to keep the English out of the area, had 100 men to capture Joseph Hooker. Hooker on the other hand, had his own private army with him of 56 Gurkhas`s. The rajah`s 100 men were won over, and joined the 56 Gurkhas`s as plant collector`s for Hooker. All now in Kew gardens. Highly recommended book, which I`m only halfway through and there`s a copy down the library.
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9 February 2010
17:1740109Colin, not Muffin who was a mule of course, but Donkey, who is a donkey (appears in Shrek).