Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Jacqui. Sorry how do I get them up.
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Sorry Vic, not sure why they didn't come up, maybe Paul can join the pics with the original post.
There's always a little truth behind every "Just kidding", a little emotion behind every "I don't care" and a little pain behind every "I'm ok".
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THank you for that I would like to get onto that,great.
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You're very welcome Vic, glad to help x
See - I can be nice
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There's always a little truth behind every "Just kidding", a little emotion behind every "I don't care" and a little pain behind every "I'm ok".
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Jacqui Just think you and me sailing the seven seas in her,me singing to you on the deck at night and playing my Violin.
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.I never said you was not nice.
And you have the right to say what you think,and I like to see that.
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AIDAblu is another brand new cruise ship which entered service last month. Owned by Aida Cruises which is a German company catering for German passengers, part of the Carnival group. One imagines that the cruise companies need all this new tonnage like a hole in the head, given the global recession.
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Very nice pics there Jacqui which I cannot match. I got these one`s lunchtime today, but not the best position regarding light.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
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The old "European Clearway", originally one of the little P&O freighters which ran out of Dover for many years (I did a few nights on her a long time ago) is temporarily stuck in ice in the Baltic together with fifty other ships. Third photo down with the yellow hull.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1255643/Dramatic-rescue-1-000-people-trapped-ferry-50-ships-stuck-Baltic-Sea-ice.htmlhoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i read about that this morning, all freed up now i understand.
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Superb set of photos of AIDAblu on the Dover Ferry Photos forum, taken by my old oppo Marconista.
He has acquiesced to me copying one to Dover Forum.
Full set on thread below but you will need to be a member to view them. Well worth registering if you are not.
http://www.doverferryphotosforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=858Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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oh some cracking shots there...love that last one. A very attractive ship that. Put me down for a ticket to the tropics. All that hardship of drinking pink gins, sitting by the pool, eating fine cuisine, and lolling about in the glorious sunshine is for me for sure.
Even though I saw that footage on TV this week, anyone else see it?? Two people were killed on board a cruise liner when a giant freak wave struck them out of the blue. It bashed in through the lounge deck smashing everything. How do those freak waves happen? I just dont know. Bit scary for us oul landlubbers looking at that. It was extraordinary. Grim.
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Yes, I saw that Paul - the big wave, very scary.
Roger
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I viewed the clip as well. Very interesting. I have a BBC2 `Horizon` programme at home, which I recorded on 14th November 2002, entitled `Freak Wave`. Much of it was about those giant iron ore carrying ships amonst other`s, disappearing all of a sudden with total loss of life. The same has happened with oil drilling platform`s out at sea. A main theory put forward is the freak wave, which is too much to go through on here, but basically, the ship ride`s the wave, then drop`s down and is clobbered by another giant wave, engulfing the whole vessel. A very interesting documentary if you ever get the chance to see it. Don`t know if they do repeat them.
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I have my doubts that this was due to freak waves. Just a spot of heavy weather and an incident which it is in the interests of the cruise company and navigators to put down to an Act of God rather than bad ship design and possibly excessive speed in the conditions.
Looking at the photos of Louis Majesty, it is hard to believe that the designers were allowed to get away with putting full height plate glass windows at deck level right up in the bow. It was an accident waiting to happen and I am surprised it had not happened before. The dead passengers were killed by shards of toughened glass from the shattered windows as they exploded inwards under the force of water.
Any ship will take green water over the bow in a storm. The weight of water and the force behind it is tremendous. On most ships, there is a raised forecastle and the water pours over it and down onto the main deck and away, with the accommodation superstructure a lot further aft.
On passenger ships such as this, the superstructure extends right up into the bows of the ship but it is axiomatic that the lower levels of the Bridge front are solid steel plate to withstand the force of water when the vessel ships a greenie. This one looks like someone has stuck a glass conservatory on the front of a speedboat and expected it to survive. Might be alright for playing about in a river but absurd for a seagoing vessel. Quite extraordinary that the classification society and the surveyors have permitted it.
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It is nice to see the old European Clearway still on the seven seas,I have done alot of welding and fitting on her years ago,I was on her at sea the night of the great wind of 1987.Was on her that week working for 130hours just resting when we could,there was some tailers that had falled over on their side and I had to cut them up,because we could not get along side to tie up a tug was holding us when I done it,must say I have never been at sea before in winds like that,two of us was on the deck that night we put ropes around ourselfs just to stop going over the side,we cut away all the handrail on oneside of the ship.But we done it and when we got longside rewelded it all again and on the Sunday she had to go for a refit.
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That sounds hairy, Vic, well done.
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Re the Louis Majesty:
The photos on the link below show what happened to the St.Christopher during the 1987 hurricane. The big vertically-sliding steel door at the forward end of the upper car deck was stowed in by a particularly heavy sea coming over. This is in just the same position as the lounge windows on the Louis Majesty, straight off the forecastle, and this is what can happen to an immensely strong steel door let alone some toughened glass windows. When the first of the Maersk D's was about to commence her voyage to the UK from the builders in Korea, the MCA debated whether to insist on the panoramic windows in the Bridge front being plated over for the voyage and they are a long way above the forecastle deck level.
http://shipsintheportofdover.fotopic.net/c1066950.html
Re freak waves:
Going back to when I was deepsea, I recall an extraordinary calamity befalling the Ben Line fast cargoship Bencruachan on her way to/from the Far East around the Cape. Again not really due to a freak wave but a set of circumstances well known around the South African coast due to a combination of the Agulhas current, the seabed configuration at the continental shelf, the Cape rollers (giant swells sweeping unrestrained around the world at the top of the Southern Ocean), local weather conditions and the ships speed. These can all come together to create what amounts to a sudden great hole in the ocean down into which the ship slams with immense force. The entire forward end of the Bencruachan for about a quarter of the length of the ship was bent down and to starboard, leaving her like a giant banana. She was eventually repaired and put back into service.
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Ed Thank you for showing them,Yes,not anight to be at sea looking at the photos again takes my mind back to that night and the following days, at one time I did not think we was going to stay upright the tug holding us had to go to the ship that in the end went down with the cost of life of its crew.
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Thanks for that Ed, I knew about the Sumnia and Hengist but not the St Christopher
The BBC site has some interesting clips on it
http://www.bbc.co.uk/kent/content/articles/2007/10/04/1987_storm_audio_video_feature.shtmlBeen nice knowing you :)