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    Barry why real ale is that your drink by any chance? Real ale is a living beer, there is a lot of waste, the cellar life is shorter than that of its chemical counterparts and regrettably it does not enjoy the mass appeal that it did in the past. When the first keg beer was produced, Watneys Red Barrel, sales of real ale plummetted and have never really recovered.
    Marek mentions a number of bells and that is indeed the heart of the matter. Youngsters are enticed into these multiple chains by low prices are offered jugs of beer at ridiculous prices and then when it starts to go pear-shaped a bouncer chucks them on to the street. The clubs have 2 for 1 offers on mainly alcopops and cheap spirits virtuall inviting youngsters to drink as much as they can, couple this up with a little pill, freely available in places which are heaving and you have a recipe for anti-social behaviour and petty violence.
    Barry you and I are old fogies and cannot understand the minds of modern youth, your recipe is taxation it won't make a shred of difference only penalise the people that do act responsibly. One of the solutions might be for the police to mount an operation where they concentrate on the large venues. Going into the places see who is drunk, see who is underage, most of them know what time the bouncers arrive so slip in beforehand, generally tighten up the licensing act, put the useless PCSO's to work in the town on a Saturday night to report any potential problems, the root of the problem is not going to be solved by yet more ridiculous taxation.

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