Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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26 September 2008
13:156634BAZ'/BRIAN
Conferences to the every day person is a bore.#
pure hot air.
how many of these poliicians actually do what they say once in power.?
get real.
OK so this posting will continue with BAZ and the tories attacking GB because they know they have to try to discredt him so they can get back into office.
i Speak to people eveyday and they aint interested in party conferences/politics in general.
what they want is real honest answers
not snipes at the Govt.
people are quickly turning off politics, and this continued snipe aint going to help to get people to vote,
but thats democracy I suppose.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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26 September 2008
13:356636Keith, GB is doing a very good job indeed in discrediting himself. HM Official Opposition have a Constitutional duty to show up his failings and to be ready to place an alternative programme before the public at an election.
You and many other people may not be interested in conferences, fair enough, but plenty are and we do see Conferences effecting events. I have already given a couple of examples of that.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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26 September 2008
16:386643Can I be the first to show your postings of next week Barry?
Cameron gave a stiring speech that inspired everyone and put Brown in his place. X showed the way forward. Y told it like it is and was inspirational. Z admitted to an affair and fled the conference.
Or should we wait until the conference starts?
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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26 September 2008
16:496647Actually Chris, I place rather more solid content in my posts than that. So I will have to see what is actually said and how it is said before saying anything!
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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26 September 2008
17:006650Yes but you must be looking forward to the last one as much as the rest of us?
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Brian Dixon
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26 September 2008
17:186653howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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26 September 2008
19:306660i would much prefer serious political discussion of a late evening.
i think mr paxman put the kibosh on that.
i used to enjoy watching him torturing politicians and other self seekers, but he went too far, now no-one will face him.
Ross Miller
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27 September 2008
11:416678Frankly a plague on both houses.
They are both as bad as each other.
A government that has lost its way and an opposition that can say what it likes as it does not need to deliver
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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27 September 2008
11:586679Ross - the Opposition cannot say what it likes (not the Conservatives anyway) Cameron has to be responsible because within two years he will be responsible for delivery. They will be judged then by what they do.
Did you see the Cameron meets the Experts last night on Sky News?
I know I am biased but I really did feel he was being articulate, candid and quite open in answering questions. Very refreshing comparison with the Brown programme last week.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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27 September 2008
14:216681Barry - do not have sky or any other cable/satellite media so cannot compare the performances.
My concern with Brown is that whilst he is a consummate parliamentarian he is generally an appalling public speaker/interviewee, and also has a reputation as a control freak
My problem with Cameron is that he has no experience of high office, has an appalling reputation for spinning and being unhelpful during his time at Carlton, comes across as smarmy and insincere
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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27 September 2008
16:026689Sky News is a Freeview channeL too Ross so no dish or cable needed. (I dont have them...)
Cameron's does have experience in the sense of having been close to power, if not in the Government as such during the Major years. He would certainly have learned a few things not to do... The fact is, in that respect, he has more experience than Blair had when he came to power...
'Appalling reputation for spinning' - not compared to Blair. Cameron is a good communicator, certainly and that is an essential skill for any Prime Minister. I have no idea about his reputation at Carlton. I certainly dont find him smarmy or at all insincere, its all in the eye of the beholder.
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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27 September 2008
16:186691I did watch the first 10 minutes of Cameron's speech and couldn't work out what he was tryingto say that we didn't already know.
Tough on crime - always a winner with the public but nothing that hasn't been said in the last god knows how many years.
Knife crime - Brown is already tackling that.
Strong family unit - quite right but didn't Mrs. Thatcher say that when she was in power.
All this but no substance in what his government would actually do.
One point, he said his gas bill was a lot of money £1,000.00 per year. He has amassed a fortune and can well afford it, how does he think the poor OAP can manage that is on a fixed income and pays not far off the same.
As I say I only watched a few minutes but his inexperience showed through, a lot of talk but no remedy.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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27 September 2008
16:296692He said repeatedly, policy annouuncements will be made at the Conference and it wasnt a speech, it was an interview in which he was responding to questions and answered in the context of those questions.
