Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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25 January 2009
00:4313773Gary because that one more brings together a number of diffferent agencies under one roof and if anything can make id fraud easier is is over reliance on one id proof instead on two or more.
Ross Miller
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25 January 2009
00:4313774Because we do not need one
As I said we have ample forms of ID now we do not need one more
The Civil Service and other government institutions have shown themselves to be utterly incompetent when it comes to information security and in all honesty cannot be trusted with all our personal information in a single database.
So for me it is no to ID cards
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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25 January 2009
10:5913793Ross you are right on that one they do have alot go missing but how can you stop that,?But you could have one very good I.D. card and the rest bin, my c.s.cs card will get me on most building sites now years ago you had to have one for each site hanging from your neck
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25 January 2009
11:1513795BarryW-Ross
Surely bringing it all under one card would also make it easier to police(control), and I have already agreed with you about civil servants, sort them out first but don't use them as an excuse not to bring in ID Cards
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25 January 2009
11:2013796Not an excuse - a reason! Without a cast-iron guarantee that my personal and valuable details will be safeguarded I cannot approve an ID system such as that being proposed. And that isn't going to happen.
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25 January 2009
13:2013810Bern
Yes I totally agree with you, I would want same assurance's, the difference comes when all you want to do is chuck it in the bin, I think we should move forward with it but with solving the problems it has, before implementing it. .. I.e. not a knee-jerk reaction .
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25 January 2009
13:3313811Knee jerk is pushing through an impractical idea because an election is coming or the pollls are bad. There is nothing knee jerk about wanting to safeguard personal information.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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25 January 2009
14:3913827point taken Bern, not that bothered with polls & elections myself. just sticks to beat each other up with as far as i can see.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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25 January 2009
20:1013861i saw on the news today a disc showing bank account details and a lot more about the staff of the british council has gone missing.
just one more added to the catalogue of lost discs.
i would never buy anything with a credit card or on the internet, there always people around ahead of the game with this electronic stuff.
i shudder to think what would happen if the ID card system came in.
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25 January 2009
21:0613869Howard
Not losing the disc's would be a good start, encrypting them before lost or stolen would greatly increase security, lucky ol you, no credit card, use Paypal to pay or buy on internet, very safe.
Why use peoples incompetence as a reason for not having ID Cards?
Think maybe an underlying reason you against it, the party who trying to implement it maybe?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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25 January 2009
22:1413871strange thing to say gary, do you have me down as a lib dem or tory?
your confidence in the internet is to your credit.
i have never yet purchased something other than from a shop, and trust that i never will.
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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25 January 2009
22:4013872Howard you are not alone I do not purchase anything off the internet, I prefer to see the goods before I purchase and not only that I just don't have the confidence in a system that can be hacked into.
Regarding I.D cards a sheer waste of money that could be put to better things.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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25 January 2009
23:1813873the present passport and driving licence systems seem to work out dave.
all the information that our betters need is there.
when we go through UK customs now, ones passport is scanned, this means that they know when we leave the country and come back.
the customs chaps/chapesses are abusing this and nicking people that they consider have gone abroad too much.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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25 January 2009
23:2313874getting back to your comment on internet purchases, how do people know if a jumper will fit or suit them?
some of the great pleasures of life are seeing a nice piece of steak in a butchers, excellent fruit and veg in a proper shop, and finally, in a supermarket we check the sell by dates of stuff to make sure that we have the freshest available.
26 January 2009
07:3813875I prefer to see stuff, and food shopping has to be done in person otherwise what's the point? But I do buy some stuff online - things I don't need to see like books or instruments, and some clothes I know will fit (Lands End are great!). I don't really like to, but I am so short of free time with the long hours I work that it is a blessing to have the option.
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26 January 2009
14:3213909Howard
It really does not bother me who you support, honestly, it's simply I seem to be missing the point or maybe I just have a different perspective on this issue. not going to keep repeating myself, sure this will come up again from time to time, I hope it does, it has base faults at the moment but still should be worked on and not put on shelf.
Only buy things on internet for my hobby, fishing or computers, use charity shops for clothes.
What's steak Howard?
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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26 January 2009
17:5313916The great pleasure of on-line shopping is the freedom from spending time going around the supermarket and queing at the checkout!!!!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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26 January 2009
20:3913932good question gary.
steak is an item available from shops and makes an attractive window display.
then someone like loadsamoney barry comes along and buys it.
Brian Dixon
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26 January 2009
20:5413935all so make good fence posts.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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26 January 2009
21:2613948any of them floating through our channel?
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