Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,226
Got any newts at Aycliffe Brian?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
They are normally found in their natural habitat Paul, the main spawning grounds are the Eight Bells and the Sea Angling club.
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,819
I always thought newts needed to live in the vicinity of ponds or water as they are amphibians, more likely to be some unheard of insect or at a stretch badgers.
I must say it seems a bit pointless but this is what happens if you want to build on empty overgrown land.
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,226
Bats, newts, badgers kill off the planning process Jan , that’s without the plant life .
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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This takes me back to the Westmount fiasco when N.T. Rix ripped up trees, shrubs etc despite the Ecologists report that bats, slow worms and active badger setts were on site. I contacted the Wildlife Police and the officer visited the site and saw the damage done. Despite his efforts to get the demolition company and DDC planning dept together with him to discuss what happened one or other couldn't make it so in the end he gave up because there is only so much time he could spend on one case.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
no paul they either up ddc offices or over st margrets.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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- Posts: 62,352
They will be ripping their gardens up in Shepherdswell looking for newts.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,819
Should they have a lorry park anywhere near Cox Hill Road in the future then the road infrastructure will definitely have to improve which would cost a fortune, so highly unlikely it will ever happen.
The upside is that any area covered might turn out to have some unexpected interesting wildlife.
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,980
Lorry park? Now what are Citycourt up to (whose name goes through Dover like that of Blackpool in the eponymous rock)?
Half way down. pdf to open up.
Area - 15-20 Acres
Planning - Under Negotiation
Land Sale - Within ownership
https://www.citycourtdevelopments.co.uk/our-developments.asp
And while you are at it look at Dover Town Centre i.e. the old Swimming Pool site.
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Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,491
So...
Lorry park alongside the A2 and B&Q?
Archers Court School playing fields moved to the other side of the school so houses can be built?
It doesn't say what the plan for the old sports centre is?
Those pdf's are over a year old. Is this masterplan pie-in-the-sky or something definitely happening?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
They seem to have some very good contacts here judging by the percentage of their work load. I wonder why they bought the land at Shepherdswell unless they had good intelligence about what it could be used for.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,819
Howard, housing eventually?
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Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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In 2013 someone paid Aecom, a major international consultancy firm, to do a major study piece on suitable locations off road for lorry parks on both the A2/M2 and A20/M20 corridors. Cox Hill was one of many, many sites investigated in that study and was ranked as the second choice on the A2/M2 corridor. Exactly why it ranked so high is unclear to me - I know the area and the junction well, the topography is a long way from being ideal (not as flat as the report indicates), too many houses too close by and downwind of the proposed site and the junction and road alignment would require significant re-engineering. There are better sites off the A2, one of which is not a long way back up the road towards Canterbury, does not interfere with existing junctions, has minimal nearby housing, and upwind, and benefits from much flatter topography.
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Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,491
Next Monday morning DFT/KCC are looking to a do a trial of running lorries from Manston to Dover.
I think the plan is to get a number local hauliers involved to see how much the local roads are clogged up.
Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
- Posts: 614
I can’t think of a better way to strangle the Isle of Thanet.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
you could all ways float some boats down the thanet way Pablo. lol
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,491
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/thanet/news/lorry-convoy-from-airport-to-test-post-brexit-plan-196359/
“The DfT has sought participation of up to 150 HGVs from hauliers, via contacts through the Road Haulage Association and Freight Transport Association, to carry out the test.
"The intention is for two test runs to take place, one in the morning peak time departing around 8am, and another departing at around 11am, to assess times taken from Manston airfield along the A256, and from the bottom of the A256 to the Eastern Docks roundabout at the entry of the port." howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Things must be quiet locally in the haulage business if 150 drivers are sitting around twiddling their thumbs waiting for something to do.
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,491
The government are paying them.
