Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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20 December 2008
00:1511264Sid
Surely thats worse, D Cameron speaking off message.
how can you work out what is official tory policy or what is just mr camerons view?
or maybe they don't want you to know
well well sid opened a can of worms here.
Sid Pollitt
20 December 2008
00:2111265Have you noticed that no-one has taken up my point about his hair parting? He was advised to change it a while ago to part on the left but if he goes out in the wind it tries to go back to the right. It reminds me of when Thatcher had to have that op on her hand [at the time she wanted, in the hospital she wanted] and no matter how they tried it still kept trying to turn into a claw!
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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20 December 2008
10:5411282Sid - why bother to comment on total tosh such as this.
Brian Dixon
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20 December 2008
16:5011292talk about the blind leading the deaf.
Sid Pollitt
20 December 2008
18:4611304Barry, why do you not want to comment on the right leaning hair, is there something we arent being told? You bother to comment on the total tosh that Cameron spouts so it's fair game init.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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20 December 2008
21:4311309i will make a point of studying boy david's hair the very next time he is on the box.
i wonder what side he dresses?
no comments about away from the window, brian!!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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21 December 2008
08:1911315as if i would.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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21 December 2008
12:2611318theres rumor that if david cameron becomes prime minister he is going to have the halls of westminster lined with mirrors,such vanaty.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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21 December 2008
13:4411319Since Cameron became leader of the Tories over 40,000 members have left the Party.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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21 December 2008
15:4011326Yes Marek also the party that tells us to budget properly and look after our finances is itself millions of pounds in debt. People in glasshouses springs to mind.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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21 December 2008
15:4911330thats a lot of members marek
dave1 have to defend tories(alittle) all the major parties have debts
but main fing is DC unlikely to ever reach dizzy heights of downing street.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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21 December 2008
18:2511346kieth one saying springs to mind, rats and sinking ships.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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21 December 2008
20:431135440,000 is not that many members to lose.
it would have been a healthy 39,998 if ken and vic had stayed put.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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21 December 2008
21:5111357A total non-story. Al parties are losing membership for a number of reasons: This from the Telegraph:
""""The collapse in Labour's grassroots membership numbers has contributed to its precarious financial position, with the party still £18 million in debt despite slashing its staff and spending.
In an official submission to the Electoral Commission, Labour admitted that its membership at the end of 2007 was 176,891.
That is scarcely 40 per cent of the 405,000 peak reached in 1997 when Tony Blair took office, and thought to be the lowest total since Labour was founded in 1900.
Total Labour membership fell by nearly 6,000 during 2007, the year Gordon Brown replaced Mr Blair as leader. It is believed to have gone on falling during the first half of this year too.
The Conservatives do not publish national membership figures, but two years ago the party estimated its total at 290,000.
During last year's Labour deputy leadership contest, Jon Cruddas, a left-wing candidate, said that the party was facing oblivion because of the collapse in its rank-and-file membership.
The accounts published by the Electoral Commission showed that Labour remains in dire financial straits. """""
It is no secret that Labour have a more difficult problem that the Conservatives.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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21 December 2008
22:5111363is this something to do with the public not really knowing what each party stands for anymore?
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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21 December 2008
23:0411365Who knows howard.... There has been an overall downwards trend for many years with the odd bump up not reversing the overall picture.
Unregistered User
22 December 2008
08:5811370Barry is correct. The voting public with exception of old timers [dying off-numbers down] & activitists [reducing] do not do politics in the old way & have transitory allegiances.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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22 December 2008
11:4211378Is it because they no longer see a difference, just the same results dressed up in empty and out-dated political rhetoric? The old adage of, "whover you vote for the government always gets in" is appearing even more apt these days and people see less and less representation of their views from who they vote for. Why go out and vote for anyone if all they are getting is an attitude of "we know best" no matter who wins while jobs, services, history and communities continue to disappear and prices continue to spiral upwards.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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22 December 2008
14:2511384I think there are many differences, as you can see ust from Barryw and Sids postings
As you well know.
I feel its a lot to do with the national scene/press
who often only publish negative stories.
then locally politicians from all parties don't engage with there communities
iv watched this this in priory, aycliffe and other places
some cllrs get elected then don't engage with public until next election in 4 years time.
I could tell you a story on that when i canvassed in a well known local cllrs ward for him
but i won't
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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22 December 2008
20:1311398Acctually I would say that BarryW and Sid's postings rather prove the point about idealogical rhetoric.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour