Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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26 November 2010
08:3681719#1
At last a serious global study by the World Health Organisation. This confirms what we suspected all along...smoking kills the child on the table next to you. Yes 600,000 thousand of them and this amount every year. Not just kids of course but all people are prone. But this is a staggering figure as it refers to a yearly total.
This applies not only to public places but in the home as well. Evidence has clearly shown this to be the case in the past too, but perhaps this report is much more dramatic....and now there are no excuses. It is the only habit we humans have that kills the next guy. Many habits we indulge in kill ourselves on a grand scale, fair enough you might say, but killing others with your habit is the real issue.
And now we can see why smoking was rightly banned in pubs and restaurants. It may have led to the demise in some pub life but it has increased life in other variations of pub life with the emergence of places like Kittiwakes and Premier Inns.
Brian Dixon
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26 November 2010
08:3981720#2
thats crazy
and thats all im saying on the matter.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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26 November 2010
08:4281722#3
Which bit is crazy Brian, expand on that me oul mucker because its not possible to follow what bit your are refering to. The one line didnt do it!!
Crazy notion that smoking kills so many?
Crazy notion that people smoke at all?
The WHO are crazy?
The loss of pub life is crazy?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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26 November 2010
08:4581723#4
the whole thing is crazy,but would like to know where they get these figures from,allso if the figures are acuret or inflated.
hope thats answerd your question paul.
Keith Sansum1
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26 November 2010
09:3781726#5
heres another subject barryw and i probably agree with
smoking jst cant be healthy for you
worse passive smoking cant be good for others that have no choice because of often inconsiderate smokers.
for me to go into places smoke free is a real bonus.
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Guest 657- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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26 November 2010
10:1881729#6
I don't know about those figures but both my parents smoked when I was growing up as did most of my relatives. I smoked off on on, never a lot but I did smoke (mainly when I was out in the evening and having a drink.) When smoking was banned from pubs and bars I stopped as I hated standing around the entrance door and/or freezing. Having just left hospital and seen many patients who are now suffering because of smoking I can honestly say I will never EVER touch another cigarette again. I got friendly with one lovely lady in her 80s who has lung cancer. I became very upset on two occasions when I thought she wasn't going to make it through the night. Thankfully she did but it really hit home with me how much smoking (and passive smoking) can and does kill.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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26 November 2010
10:4281734#7
Well said Jeane and well done. Thats a success for the smoking ban then...
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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26 November 2010
11:3981741#8
Not to mention vehicles belching out toxic gas in the town-centre! How many babies in their prams get directly hit by the gas leaving the exhaust pipes at a few yards distance?
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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26 November 2010
12:0081742#9
After all smoking has not been banned in the open air and you dont get car exhausts inside pubs, clubs and restaurants.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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26 November 2010
15:4881751#10
barryw,they do when the windows/doors are open and the wind is in the wrong derection.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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26 November 2010
15:5481755#11
Close the b****y windows then!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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26 November 2010
15:5681756#12
try asking the cafe/resturant onwer,.
26 November 2010
17:0381761#13
Well as a non-smoker I am so pleased that they brought the smoking ban in, being brought up in a household with a mum, step-dad, uncles, a brother & sisters who smoked - the doctor said that my asthma had a direct link to this, and it is true, since leaving home and living in my own (smoke free) zone my asthma is manageable, but a night out in the smokey pubs and clubs meant I was coughing and wheezing again, and it smells so horrible, on your clothes, skin and hair yukkkk
Now with this rule, if I want to stand in a smokey atmosphere I have a choice, where before, I didn't have one.
Added to this I have just recently lost my Uncle to throat cancer, through smoking and drinking and to watch a man of only 58 years old lose his life to this horrible disease, is heart-wrenching, I wish people could see the affects this has on them and their families.
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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26 November 2010
17:1681763#14
A dear friend of mine some years ago died of lung cancer, brought on by passive smoking; her husband and son both smoked a lot.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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26 November 2010
18:4481786#15
I have no facts or figures, only personsl experidnce. My parents both smoked heavily when I was a child. Every year I would be in bed with chronic bronchitis and sometimes pneumonia too. When I went to boarding school at the age of nine it cleared up. Except during school holidays when it would sometimes re-appear. Nowadays if I smell tobacco smoke it makes me sneeze violently. If I have to endure it for prolonged periods I stop sneezing and start coughing blood. This is because the smoke causes bloodm blisters to form in my windpipe which burst when it contracts during a coughing spasm. Not all passive smokers react in this way, I admit. But those of you who say that passive smoking is harmless must be living on a different planet. Poison yourselves by all means, but don't poison me.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
26 November 2010
21:2481810#16
The evidence is there scientifically and anecdotally. And those parents who smoke in a car with the kids strapped in (sometimes) as trapped lab rats should be placed in stocks and pelted with hard and sharp objects.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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26 November 2010
23:5481845#17
I suppose Doctor Who is right, but he could still have spent a few words on town traffic! I'll fight my corner here!
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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27 November 2010
00:2081852#18
Ok I'll stick my head above the turret.
I'm 54yrs old now and never felt better, smoked from the age of 14yrs, have 3 children and one Grand daughter.
NEVER once have we (and the missus) smoked in the same room as the kids or smoked in the car with the kids in it.
When I'm out and about as some forumites will testify, I go out of my way not to annoy people with my smoke and go away from them or stay inside and enjoy the banter.
Yes I know it's bad for me and I know it's bad for you but don't tar (
) every smoker with the same brush.
It's the same as everything else in life, punish the people that make things bad for you ( road tax, insurance, litter, dog s**t, river dour
).
I won't annoy you, don't annoy me.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
27 November 2010
08:5681867#19
But no-one is saying smokers are all the same. I haven't said ALL smokers trap their kids in a car and force them to breathe toxic fumes which will make them sick and shorten their lives. I don't care if people smoke, just don't do it near me, near my family, or if it can damage anyone. And I would make it a crime to smoke in a car or confined space with children.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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27 November 2010
08:5981868#20
share your view bern
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