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  ROGER
  I think we share views on the benefits system, but that is to the point of who do we both think should/shouldnt claim benefits, what individuals should do to claim benefits(not just a hand out)
  
  We could probably agree on lots on this.
  
  Its the bit about skivers, we would need to look deeply into who they may be
  how we could change it.
  
  
  Roger you are incorrect in the labour partys view in supporting working classes or working man/women(woops you forgot the women)
  
  They still do, sadly some tories are going around saying whatever people want to hear, not costings things, and usually probably never able to achieve.
  
  you are correct that both main parties have moved to middle England where the vote is.
  
  As a trade unionist of 29 odd years of course I support(ed)the NUM and worked with many unions including my own, thats why im looking to see the trades council flourish locally.
  and those unions that share views of mine to continue to work closely with
  
  
  
  Like Gary says, once you have this "I want to helpo others " attitude it doesnt disappear

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