Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I have seen a report of a poll by ICM poll done for The TaxPayers' Alliance and Global Vision. It has some very interesting results and I totally agree wioth the thrust of opinion, in particular about breaking EU rules. These rules are often a joke and against our interests so we should simply do what the French and others do and stop obeying them.
key points:
69% want the British Government to start breaking EU rules. (78% of Conservative voters support EU rule-breaking.)
By 57% to 37% Britons favour unilateral repatriation of powers if the EU refused to give us permission to do so.
75% of people believe that any decision to give more powers to the EU must always be put to a referendum, while only 23% believe such decisions should be taken by MPs.
Membership of the Euro (which would have greatly handicapped our economic recovery) is rejected by 75% to 23%. Even 58% of Liberal Democrats oppose membership.
67% agree that the economic crisis demonstrates the need for Britain to take back control of trade and economic policies.
Perhaps if we treated the EU with the contempt it deserves there would be less resentment towards it. Better off out though.
Brian Dixon
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is this poll on a tory biased opinion or an idependant survey.?.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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ICM for the Taxpayers Alliance as stated Brian.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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is it independant though,ie not tied to any particular party.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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No Brian - not tied to a Party.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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I heard Nick Clegg, Leader of the Libdems, who is beginning to shine as a leader in these past few weeks, ie. calling for the Speaker to go before anyone else (such a call was never considered the gentemanly thing to do before) and also supporting Joanna Lumley before anyone else. Cameron had to catch up with that one and Brown eventually got the message.
But with regard to the membership of the euro. This has slipped out of frontline politics for the moment but Nick Clegg again in that recent sunday morning interview said that one day we will have to wake up to the changing world and join the larger currency. A small island with such an unstable pound currency will not be sound in the longer term. The £ currency is volatile. In the longer run and Ive said this before on here so I guess Nick Clegg must be reading my notes ...in the longer run the stability of the larger group will be essential. I think Im right in saying that The Euro has remained very stable in the current crises and that the Eurozone generally, I say generally as there are one or two exceptions, has not felt the pain quite like we have in the UK.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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of course europe is more stable than the uk,only last night acording to the late news [10 pm] the uk may lose its triple a rateing,where as europes may be raised.it looks like the uk is going down hill.as the saying goes there is safty in numbers and number is europe and the euro.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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actually the euro has been struggling against the pound for a couple of months.
brian
if europe is so stable, why are so many coming here for work?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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because we pay better wages here than they do over there.ie the polish peoples pay,one days pay here is =to one months pay there.so where would you rather work.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Brian the threat of the Uk being downgraded to AA is because of the British Governments economic mismanagement over the last 12 years. Likewise any weakness of the Pound. The excessive levels of Government debt and the refusal to cut public expenditure will hamper economic recovery as the IMF said only a few days ago.
The Euro has many problems of its own and may not survive. if we were in the Euro now things would be even worse.
BarryW, I must stop agreeing with you! But we should never even have contemplated the euro, and we would be better off way outside the EU. the sooner the better for me!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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brian
i don't know if you realise, but you have proved my argument.
it is not only new europeans cpming here but spanish, portuguese, italians etc working under contract through agencies.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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still say we would be better off FULLY in europe and with the EURO in our pocket.
Guest 686- Registered: 5 May 2009
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There are two ways to go with Europe; all the way in or all the way out. To my mind this half way house state of affairs is not doing this country any favours. And I favour all the way out because otherwise we'd just be heading for a United States of Europe run by the French and Germans from Brussels.
Phil West
If at first you don't succeed, use a BIGGER hammer!!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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only if you let them,knowing this and previous goverments weak kneed atemped at anything.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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By the way the Organisation that rates countries AA or AAA is itself under scrutiny after so called ratings of other countries that turned out to be incorrect. So the advice from the financial pundits in the city was that it lacked credibilty and basically take it with a pinch of salt.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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marek
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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Taxpayers alliance not associated with political party?
very anti labour, not seen it being critical of any other parties
why am i suspicious?
Could it be due to the way the labour party has failed the people of the country.