Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Howard - he was challenging to them as he was trying to force a much harder line on crime.
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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Iam not sure I fully understand what you are proposing Barry. The CPS, I believe is split into 42 regional offices spread throughout England and Wales. If say region 3 deals with Kent what is the advantage in creating a local office, you're simply creating more offices. Where are the staff coming from, you couldn't use less, remember you have to be qualified to appear in a magistrates court and a barrister has to be accompanied by a instructing solicitor/clerk or in the case of the CPS somebody from their office. Should you run 4 courts that would mean 4 solicitors or 4 clerks all of which would I presume have to be paid from local funds.
The only time I remember Michael Howard was the judiciaries objection to, I believe, the 1994 Criminal Justice Act where he restricted the right to remain silent. In practise he won the day, in reality it was unenforceable.
I have to say this all smacks of tinkering to me and I just cannot agree to us mucking around with this while the economy collapses before our very eyes.
I also don't care what Michael Howard or previous Home Secretary's got up to or what the crime stats were 10+ years ago as they are irrelevant now.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I agree Sid, what happened so many years ago is irrelevant now - different scenario and different people too.
Roger
True, except we are reaping what they sowed (sown? sewed? so-ed? so-on?) It has been a long night!!
Bern, EVERYTHING has a consequence, but at some point in life we have to move on and put the past behind us. Arguing over something government did nearly 20 years ago is like poor Gwyn still fighting the mariners strike of the late 80's, it's totally irelevant now despite what happened then.
Brian Dixon
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yep thats it barry blame every thing on labour,while the torys come up smelling of roses.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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Although I can see where Sid and Roger are coming from in #23 & 24, I wonder if it is irrevelent now, as to look back at that, we should make sure we don`t make the same mistake`s again, and again, and again and again.................
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
Ross Miller
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Why does everything need to be dragged down to a political point scoring exercise?
Fundamentally, I suspect, the vast majority of people agree that the current process for prosecuting criminal cases needs overhauling, the staffing levels and their competence need reviewing etc. I am equally sure that we all agree that the principle of a prosecution service that is independent of the police is a good thing. Of course their is a debate to be had about how we carry out that improvement but lets stop the political point scoring and bitch slapping.
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Ross, agree 99% with your #29 posting. I disagree with your statement that "the vast majority of people agree...." as I think the vast majority aren't the slightest bit interested. They are more concerned with jobs, the economy and immigration. So far all the major parties have come up with zilch for tackling those three issues.
Bitch slapping?
Very Prodigy if I may say?
Ross - I managed to get to the end of your post nodding maturely and sagely until the last sentence, at which I collapsed in a heap of giggles!! thank you for that!