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    Keith - we have discussed this before... it is so tiresome when you ignore what has been said and repeat nonsense.

    Heseltine was commenting on the structural electoral bias and pointing out the level of swing needed, based on an even national swing, he correctly pointed out that it is something of a mountian to climb. Polling evidence shows that the necessary swing is likley to happen and may be greater than the swing in 1997.

    Dont worry, Keith I will take the greatest of pleasure rubbing salt into your wounds.

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