Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Arent we very lucky to have Pencester Gardens right in the heart of town. It is a tremendous asset for all. It is so central and within easy reach of everybody and all through the summer we have fantastic days put on there by the active doers in the community and here's the thing..they are all totally FREEEE !
Right now in glorious mid-summer the park is all lush and green and very well looked after. We have a fantastic skate park for the teens and a soon to be opened terrific playground for the kids. To oneside we have a delightful stretch of the Dour river which boasts the occasional fascinating wildlife. Not so long ago while ambling to Marks & Spenser on a cool saturday I saw a fantastic long legged Heron right there in the park. Naturally enough my trusty camera was not about my person at the time. All this pleasant luxury nestles beneath a backdrop of our great Castle.
I dont know about you.. but I am entertained in the park all summer long with all the diverse events and it doesnt cost me anything at all. I enjoyed yesterdays Priory Forum Funday and even next saturday the 19th July I will be back there for the Community Safety Day when there will be lots of action demonstrations by the services. Community Safety Day is actually better than it sounds. See the seperate thread for details. See you there.
I cant think of a single downside re Pencester Gardens....
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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YES pencester is a grand park enoyed by many
there is one down side, the number of drunks allowed to congregate in there
its intimidating to many have to say I don't like going throuh there when there are a number there, and they do seem to increase in numbers lately
Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Hi PaulB
Thanks for coming along yesterday, I agree about Pencester, although a pity about the drinkers and druggies, but nothing seems to get done about it, at our event yesterday they were openly drinking, and dealing, but as soon as the PCSO's went near the bottles etc were stuffed in their pockets, although later in the day they were moved on, but only a few yards, into a little corner out of the way, they should be moved on altogether.
When asking them to move the answer we got was that it was their park, and they were not hurting us, although their half starved dogs kept wandering up to see whether there was any food about, these people spoil it for everyone else, and put a bad light on the town
Sheila
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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I think its about resources, as soon as you move them on they go back, and where do you move them to?
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Jail or Gaol? Seems like a good place to move them to until they sober up.
The park is a NO drinking zone.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 663- Registered: 20 Mar 2008
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Yes pencester is a good asset right in the middle of Dover, we are very lucky sorry Sheila missed yesterday but should hopefully be around for the community safety day.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Actually Marek, the Park is not a NO drinking zone, but if a uniformed Policeman asks you to stop drinking because you are deemed to be a nuisance, you must stop drinking.
If people wished to go to Pencester for a picnic, hamper (or whatever) and bottle of wine, then that is O.K.
Roger
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Thanks for correcting me Roger.Apologies.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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No apologies necessary Marek.
Roger
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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17 October 2009
20:5230802Don`t forget those darned pigeons! Masses of them the other day, then all settling above the shops opposite.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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17 October 2009
21:0730807Yes Paul, Pencester Gardens is a nice place, and it is the first place visitors see arriving from out of town on the buses, so should always be well kept.
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Guest 684- Registered: 26 Feb 2009
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18 October 2009
09:2930835No drinking should be allowed in parks or in the street. Simple as that. There's zero tolerance in Brighton these days. Why can't we do it here?
And the French don't put up with it either. Any drunk in the street gets carted off in a meat wagon, given a hosing down and a night in the slammer. I saw the French rozzers' refreshing lack of tolerance in Menton last summer, as they summarily threw a couple of irritating street soaks in the back of a van and dragged them off for a reflective night in the cells before you could say "Les 'uman rights". (And no it wasn't me and my mate, before you all start chortling)
Meanwhile our increasingly wussy nation pussyfoots around, as usual, leaving the peaceable, decent majority cowering confused in the shadows.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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18 October 2009
11:3130847Andrew, we would really love to have the Hellfire Corner dance in the park next year, among the vehicles and under canvas, . We can get the dance floor and the 'canvas' more restricted times so as not to disturb residents is no problem either, but we cannot have alcohol, therefore the idea is a non-runner. Just imagine the great atmoshere we could create.
While I agree that 'normally' an alcohol free park is right and proper there is no room in the rules for us, within the secure area, to do this. Trying to get the authorities to grant some kind of 'special' is difficult or impossible. We need a much more flexible and common sense approach to rules.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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18 October 2009
11:4430849Alot of fuss about the smoking ban everywhere, but now it`s in place and working. Why not start on the alchohol? I`ve had my share over the years, and gone over the top, but enjoyed myself. The trouble is, like outside the 8 bells 2 weeks ago, a few can`t handle it. A male in his 30s shouting the F & C word at another drinker, calling him a w....., while being restrained by another drinker. Right in the middle of the town centre!!!!!! Like no smoking in public places, and no dogs on the beach, no alchohol in Pencester Gardens. Is it that hard to enforce?? On the spot fines to help make it self financing.
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Guest 684- Registered: 26 Feb 2009
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18 October 2009
12:0230851Hi Barry,
For civilised, sensible events like the Hellfire Corner dance, of course there should be things like beer tents etc. Common sense should prevail.
However, my point is not about that. It's about the Pencester p*ssheads, the Eight Bells All-Day-Bender boys and sundry wandering drunks who so pollute everyone's lives.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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18 October 2009
12:0330853No disagreement there Andrew.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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18 October 2009
12:0630854Hi Barry. The only thing about that event being a non runner is that alchohol has won the day?
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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19 October 2009
07:5330917Or more like it, the alcoholics have won the day.
Most of the people who congregate outside the 8 Bells do so, to smoke and drink (and be verbally abusive).
There is an outside area at the rear of the building that could be used for smokers and they would be out of sight of the public in Cannon Street and not be able to put people off.
Many people who are walking along Biggin Street towards the Market Square, see and hear what's going on at the 8 Bells and then turn around, so the businesses close to the pub lose out on trade.
I like the cafe culture and think it enhances the feel of Dover, but I don't like the drunken, abusive behaviour by many of those outside at the 8 Bells.
Roger
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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19 October 2009
09:0930920Lets face it, the whole thing has got out of hand and the majority are paying for the few.
I don't like walking past the Prince Albert or the 8 Bells with any of my familly. the language is foul, and it's just not the smokers. the new laws are pushing every one out side the ale houses.
I enjoy a pint and a fag but I don't behave in the way these idiots do.
In Barry's situation re Hell Fire corner, Totally stupid not to allow alcohol for a special event, Barry's and other events happen there and the p**s heads sit around the outside doing what they do best and they win again. they are not bothered by the law.
The whole thing is completely stupid.
Could it not be a Bring your own ( booze ) event Barry?
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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19 October 2009
10:2130922We thought of the latter but it is not just the sale of alcohol that is the problem, but we have it on good authority that people would not be allowed to consume alcohol there at all. We could just 'tip the wink' unofficially, and that is not something that I am personally adverse to, but there would be the risk of embarrassment to 'prominent people' who attend....I would not want to place anyone in such a position.