Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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14 February 2009
11:4815443So Norman Tebbit is conscience stricken about Tory devastation of Mining Communities and goes on to say in his book that "Mining Communities had good working class, yes BarryW, working class values and a sense of family values and the miners did real men's work going down the mines"
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
14 February 2009
13:5115459Did he have the tongue that was stuck in his cheek surgically removed? Debit Tebbit expressing feelings other than homicidal ones about Miners feels like it's April 1st. Or is he admitting to being nothing more than Thatchers attack dog?
Unregistered User
20 February 2009
20:1915788Gary , you can have good working class credentials & a sense of family values but be poorly led on industrial relations & tactically out flacked. History will tell.
Watty
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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20 February 2009
20:2215790tactically out flanked?
that must be the understatement of the decade paul.
who on earth would call a pit strike when stocks were massive and the summer just starting?
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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20 February 2009
21:1715793Maggie Thatcher thats who.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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20 February 2009
21:4615799my memory must be going gary.
that is not how i remember it, i feel sure that the blue rinsed one was never a trade union activist.
i feel sure that it was called by a bloke with a shredded wheat on his bonce.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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21 February 2009
08:1115806And he was the one who started the demise of the coad industry - using the miners as a political tool for his own ends.
Roger
21 February 2009
09:5915813Manipulated and out-flanked, I believe. Thatcher was, in my opinion, evil personified, but she was not stupid.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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21 February 2009
10:3915815I was a Miner, and I fought to keep our Coalfield open, for ourselves, our families and our country. We lost that fight and we no longer have a Coalfield. I know why it happened and how it happened because I was there and I lived it. You can only repeat all your party lines and media propaganda. End of Post for me.
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21 February 2009
10:4915817Well said GaryC.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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21 February 2009
11:0915818Statements describing Mrs T as 'evil personified' are ludicrous, Bern.
Do get some perspective, 'evil personified' can be attributed to Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Joe Stalin.
We all owe a great debt to Mrs T because she managed to do what no previous PM had managed, she turned around a failing and bankrupt economy.
Once again we now have another failing bankrupt economy and we will need some of her kind of magic again. Let us just hope DC is up to the task.
Brian Dixon
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21 February 2009
11:3315820not acording todays papers.he has no ideas no forsight and no friends to back him up.
21 February 2009
12:3615821Ok, I will concede a little BarryW, but I retain the right to view Mrs T as a Bad Lot. What she achieved was not in my name, and given a choice i would rather she had not existed as a politician.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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21 February 2009
13:4115825gary
i do not repeat media stuff or belong to any party.
please try to be more accurate in future.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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21 February 2009
14:2415827Bern, we can agree to disagree on Mrs T and you may think her methods were wrong but her intentions were right and were placed before the people in an election, she did what she promised and her successes self evident.
21 February 2009
14:2815828She did achieve success by her own definition, and I wouldn't disagree. I don't think what she achieved was good or fair, nor it was not what I would have wanted to happen, and I think many of todays behavioural problems which have led to a breakdown in many of the institutions and groups that most of us value, corporate and individual, are the result of her manipulation of the population and industry. She was skilled, up to a point, in what she did, albeit limited and unable to extend her range sufficiently to extend her political life,, but it is my opinion that the direction she drove us in was a tragedy for us.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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21 February 2009
16:1715832i am sure her middle name was evillyn or something simular,personnly i am thinking she and her party done this country a lot of harm in which we havent fully recourverd yet.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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21 February 2009
20:0315836Her 'turning around the economy' tactics would not work again, there is nothing left to sell.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
21 February 2009
21:4215845Remember, when all else has been sold off, the only thing left to sell is yourself.....................
Unregistered User
22 February 2009
13:0115879Bern , the majority of the public did not agree with you they elected & re-elected her three times.
Watty