Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Yes, Pencester Gardens is the answer.
Note the willow at the centre!
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A question: Do you all know who De Pencestre is?
Alec Sheldon
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Where is this beautiful blossom.? A tricky one.
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Alex
Stephen de Pencester was Warden of the Cinque Ports when the first authoritative list of Cinque Ports Confederation Members was produced in 1293.
Stephen de Penecestre was Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports for 32 years, his tenure finishing in 1299 when the Baron de Burghersh was elected; it is reasonable to assume he began his administration in 1267.
Alec
Your back garden?
Marek
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Is it the Lees Folkestone
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Stephen De Pencestre also defended Dover Castle from the French.
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I was unaware that Dover Castle had ever been under attack from the French. Could you supply dates and sources of information please.
Marek
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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It was Chris de Burgh that did his stuff in 1216 when the Castle was seiged by the French with a bit of help from Pencester....
Been nice knowing you :)
Alec Sheldon- Location: Dover
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Correct Marek. Sorry Alan.
Alex. What has de Pencestre got to do with this thread ?.
Brian Dixon
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alec,exactly.
Jan Higgins
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Nothing at all Alec but we all know Alex likes to show his knowledge.
Beautiful tree you have there, is it an almond or an early cherry.
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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We are rather missing some Vic randomness in this thread !
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes sorry but my time is taken up with the election at this time.But that one is the garden that backs on to the playing ground up at Elms Vale.
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Alec, it has to do with Pencester Gardens, that's all. Some Dover history.
Sometimes some history might be connected to a place depicted.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i always thought it was hubert de burgh that stood his ground against the french in the thirteenth century.
dover was the only castle not taken.
alec
is it forge lane whitfield?
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Sorry but am I right or am I wrong with my last post please.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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French invasionDe Burgh remained loyal to the king during the barons' rebellions at the end of John's reign. The Magna Carta mentions him as one of those who advised the king to sign the charter, and he was one of the twenty-five sureties of its execution. John named him Chief Justiciar in June 1215.[2]
De Burgh played a prominent role in the defence of England from the invasion of Louis of France, the son of Philippe II who later became Louis VIII. Louis' first objective was to take Dover Castle, which was in de Burgh's charge. The castle withstood a lengthy siege in the summer and fall of 1216, and Louis withdrew. The next summer Louis could not continue without reinforcements from France. De Burgh gathered a small fleet which defeated a larger French force at the Battle of Dover and Battle of Sandwich, and ultimately led to the complete withdrawal of the French from England.
[edit] Regent to Henry III
checked it out with wkipedia
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paul
chris de burgh was another warrior, but he only ever murdered "lady in red".
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Sorry but again am I right or not,I am dieing to find out.
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Vic
See posts 444 & 449 for the correct answer
Marek
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