1 December 2010
18:1882590howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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1 December 2010
18:2682592barry
two points here, i am glad that you have cottoned on to the importance of sport, in particular football to the economy.
back in the summer you failed to see the financial fallout of england's early exit from the world cup in south africa.
secondly you rightly refer to the massive taxes paid by the high earning players, yet call them "overpaid primadonnas".
surely in a market economy the employer pays the going rate for the best, if they were overpaid the clubs would go bust.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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1 December 2010
18:3282596Howard - Englands exit from the world cup in South Africa is one thing, the event being held in the UK is another.
Yes, Howard - they are overpaid prima-donnas. I am not arguing against the market rate, I just think the whole damn sport is itself overblown and a lot of people are irrationally obsessed with it. I could say that fools are soon parted with their money but if I did I am certain someone on here will take it as a personal slight against them....
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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1 December 2010
18:3582598barry
of course people would take offence, we all have different interests, i would never dream of putting anyone else's down.
how can you actually "hate" football, if i do not like something, i do not hate it, i just ignore it.
1 December 2010
18:5082599Actually, I hate it. My Old Man watches it sometimes and the sight of the over-blown kiddy-boys falling over their wage packets to miss a goal is mildly irritating. But I can see why some like it, I can even see some of the skills needed for it. I just find it so bad I can actually hate it!! A bit like hating marmite - I can avoid it but that doesn't stop me hating it.......
PS - I actually like marmite, it was just an eg!!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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1 December 2010
19:1882605bern
i do not see your way of thinking here, why do you watch it if you hate it, and why do the player's wages keep coming up?
we have rock stars, film actors, countless other sportsmen and bankers earning big salaries and few mention them.
maybe bankers though.
1 December 2010
19:4382613I don't watch it! I happen to be around when it is on, sometimes! I am also aware of it, like I am aware of marmite, without having to eat it or get it out of the cupboard...
The wages keep coming up because they are ridiculous and unwarranted for a bunch of big kids kicking a ball and falling over if brushed past by a gust of wind. When there are people living on a cup of rice a day and people dying for want of a drop of clean water I find it appalling that we reward so well people who PLAY FOOTBALL . That is only my opinion, I don't care enough to become sweaty over it, and I feel differently about the Arts! I am not consistent, but then, who is?
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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1 December 2010
19:5582618Different interest indeed, Howard, thats not what I am on about. Its the irrational extreme obsession some have with it that I refer to. I do laugh at fat overweight middle aged men wandering around town wearing football kit pretending to be Bobby Charlton.
1 December 2010
20:0282621Showing our ages, BarryW - that's the first name I thought of, closely - very closely - followed by George Best. I guess it's Rooney now. Good Grief!
Brian Dixon
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1 December 2010
20:0782623howard,who are calling a banker,
oops sorry.
1 December 2010
20:4382643Howard,
One minute you are saying football draws in the money to this country but what you fail to mention is the millions sent abroad by so called english "football players" I do not know whether colonialism has sprung a new life because every time I see football on the television it is usually people whos names I am hard pressed to pronounce. These "English players "come from countries, the majority of supporters would be hard pressed to point out on a map where there country of origin is.
P.S.
If any one cares to point the racist finger at me then so be it. As I am in my seventies I do not care.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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1 December 2010
21:0482654jimmy
the footballers with funny sounding names pay vast bucket loads of coins in tax to the treasury.
the original money they receive comes from abroad mostly, russia and the arabian gulf.
even barry would agree that this is a great situation all round.
1 December 2010
21:2382659Are people who oppose hosting the world cup in 2018 suggesting that we wont be on our way out of this recession by then, in over 6 yrs time I should jolly well hope so. It will bring in vast amounts of tourists and revenue, it should be encouraged.
Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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1 December 2010
21:3882662Fingers crossed for England winning the bid tomorrow, it will bring in a vast amount of much needed monies for all sectors without major investment as the infrastructure, as Howard says, it's already there
1 December 2010
21:4182663Me too - I would love for England to win the bid tomorrow - and I love football too. So many stadiums that can be used to put on this on the world stage, what an advert to the world.
Ross Miller
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1 December 2010
21:4482665The reality is that almost all the sporting infrastructure for this bid already exists, as acknowledged by FIFA and where it is not it is the clubs that will provide it not the taxpayer. Equally, the necessary hotels etc. will be provided by private enterprise not the state. Where the state will have to provide some funding is to cover the cost of security and possibly transport infrastructure upgrades, though much of the latter is already planned and funding allocated because the country needs it regardless of the football.
The event itself is heavily sponsored by global corporates and FIFA do not pay any taxes to the host country so it makes huge profits for FIFA.
The upside for the UK is the massive influx of fans, media personnel etc. who will all spend money here.
Those who are objecting need to identify exactly how much this is costing offset that against the amount of additional revenue the exchequer will make from tax take and only then if their is a deficit start banging on.
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1 December 2010
21:4682667howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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1 December 2010
21:4882669great to see the enthusiasm in later posts, i must add that a successful event like euro 1996 sent a great message about united kingdom plc.
great for a nation that loves their football as is evidenced by the hype every time a big event happens and finally a chance for entrepreneurs to parade their wares before a global audience.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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1 December 2010
21:4882670Oh I do not for one minute believe that even in 6 years time the England team will be good enough to win the World Cup, though I do believe that this is the best opportunity in a fair few generations to actually host it
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1 December 2010
23:0882688With all the economic downfall of Britain and one eu country after another demanding money to pay off their debits - (how will they pay the new and larger debits back in two or three or ten years time is a puzzle) - I have no time for world-cup Tom foolery.
