howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon
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and the police are running out of cells, looks like they might have to open the closed police stations soon.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The police say that they know from social media that Heathrow is the next target but they also knew that Central London was the previous target well in advance and didn't do anything.
https://news.sky.com/story/climate-protesters-threaten-heathrow-airport-shutdown-after-460-arrests-11697381Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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After the farce at Gatwick a few months ago I suspect you could bring LHR to a halt with half a dozen £50 drones. Just saying.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The police seem to have things under control at last.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47987891Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Yup. It's all about the polar bears and the poor planet. No alternative agenda here.
"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Jan Higgins
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My grandson saw them in Cambridge holding up the traffic as they like to do, even the blue light ambulances were having trouble were having problems getting through.
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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It is a thin line on staying within law
and being able to protest to some effect
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Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
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They ought to think about the additional fuel burned by thousands of petrol and diesel vehicles held up by them for hours on end. It’s not really about the environment at all, that’s just a convenient cover story to dupe useful celebrity eejits like Emma Thompson into supporting and repeating their narrative. It’s all about destroying the current world order in favour of.........what, exactly? Nobody knows. Probably nothing, a vacuum. It’s nihilism at its finest. (Even the gilets jaunes across the Channel have a list of demands which they want met.) I look forward to seeing them all at Davos.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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The disruption they cause will achieve nothing except annoy those going about their normal life, it certainly will not worry the politicians away on their break from Westminster.
As an aside I wonder how many would have turned up if the weather was cold and wet.
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Weird Granny Slater
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Excellent organisation of non-violent protest which completely threw the Met's 'intelligence', and they've no excuse to truncheon folks either. However, the arrival of the queen of LA was a massive ego trip for Thompson and a bad miscalculation, handing an easy straw man avenue to the 'truth-tellers' at the mainstreams. Actors should stick to what they're good at: resting. Rights aren't a theoretical abstraction; they're there to be exercised, or they're no use at all: if you don't use them, you'll lose them.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Emma Thompson reminds me of Vanessa Redgrave, another well known celebrity who also backed a publicity seeking rabble, still it is an easy way of attracting the media coverage that these groups need.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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a couple of candidates for a film about it, all so room for a sequall. lol
Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
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#10, Jan, I think if it had been cold and wet they’d have stayed at home and shovelled some more coal on the fire.
Guest 2547- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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The comments above go a long way to explaining why this civil disobedience is happening. So keen to criticise and poke fun but no sign of grasping the life changing reality of the issues behind the protests.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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The climate is changing, be it natural or man made, and luckily this country is at least trying to improve our impact, these protesters should focus on the countries that are doing nothing but add to the world's pollution problems.
Yes I will criticise those who disrupt the lives of ordinary people trying to continue their work day or even their much deserved rest day. I suspect this civil disobedience will not make any difference at all to the way Westminster, other countries or big business think or behave. Like the vast majority rallies on any subject they are preaching only to their existing followers and co-believers.
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Ross Miller
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They dont want sticking plaster solutions they want fundamental and radical change which is where the heart of their differences with the authorities lies. I suspect they subscribe to George Monbiot's view that the only way to solve climate change is to stop capitalism and the belief that we can have constant growth without consequence.
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Guest 2547- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Jan Higgins wrote:The climate is changing, be it natural or man made, and luckily this country is at least trying to improve our impact, these protesters should focus on the countries that are doing nothing but add to the world's pollution problems.
Yes I will criticise those who disrupt the lives of ordinary people trying to continue their work day or even their much deserved rest day. I suspect this civil disobedience will not make any difference at all to the way Westminster, other countries or big business think or behave. Like the vast majority rallies on any subject they are preaching only to their existing followers and co-believers.
"Be it" does not apply. Climate change is man made whether you choose to believe it or not. The evidence is irrefutable. Yes, our track record is better than others but there is still so much more that MUST be done.
Would you said all that about the suffragettes, I wonder?
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Well, thank goodness that nice Mrs Thatcher closed all the coal mines I say!
Here's Boris' take on things:-
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/21/dear-extinction-rebellion-aims-worthy-take-pink-boat-china-instead/
And here's the source of the power you are using right now:-
http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/
IF they want to protest how about starting in Germany:-
https://www.ft.com/content/cfae297e-213c-11e9-8ce6-5db4543da632
It's within cycling distance?
"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Two of those links are behind paywalls Bob.
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