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     ray hutstone wrote:
    The Tory party is now so far to the right...

    This is a self-sustaining fantasy of the modern Left. Look behind, around and under the rhetoric to what the Tories actually do and you'll see it shares a directional position more or less in line with Labour. The Tories out-Blaired Blair in order to stay alive. Whether you want to call that left, right or extreme centre makes little difference. But the fact is there's but the thickness of a manifesto cover between them.

    As far as Europe-the-political-entity is concerned, there's a long tradition of Labour scepticism not limited to Benn, Shore and Hoey (and Corbyn until he caved). That the modern Starmerite 'Left' see leaving the EU as a project of the 'Right' testifies to the shallowness of its political understanding, and is a major reason Labour cocked it up in December 2019.

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