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Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
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To be honest, local voters take more notice of national issues than they do of bickering among local activists. Here’s the one to blame.
If he has a shred of decency he will be clearing his desk today. But I expect he will be propped up in the job by his Momentun chums who put him there.
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Jan Higgins
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"If he has a shred of decency he will be clearing his desk today. But I expect he will be propped up in the job by his Momentun chums who put him there."
His leadership lost his party the election so he should have immediately announced he would be "clearing his desk" that is what the LibDem leader did almost straight away.
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Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
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Jan she had no choice as she has lost her seat.
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Captain Haddock
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The problem for Labour is who is there to succeed Jezza. Listening to the radio this morning it would appear to be a choice between:-
1. That thick Northern girl.
2. That thick Brummie girl.
3. That REALLY thick Northern girl.
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Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
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And Sir Keir Starmer. And don’t forget that other thick girl who occupies the next seat to Jezza.
Weird Granny Slater
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ChazwoldAlmighty wrote:I told them they were going to fail...
It wouldn't have mattered if they'd stood Keir Hardie. Politics is tribal everywhere, with near zero genuinely independent thought. You could pin a blue rosette on a pig's posterior and it would get the votes. Odor malus.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Reginald Barrington
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Pablo wrote:And don’t forget that other thick girl who occupies the next seat to Jezza.
Now that would be a Christmas present that keeps on giving!
I'm getting my bumper stickers printed just in case "A FURB is not only for Christmas!"
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Keith Sansum1
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I spoke to a number of them over past 2 years but I still think they are under the impression they can just walk into seats
Thankfully those days have long gone
Labour heartlands also gone in many areas
Just blaming brexit isn't enough
They have 5 years to involve themselves in communities building up from the commu ities
But I suspect they will tear each other apart from within
And blame everyone else for the heavy defeat
Rather than question why
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Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
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Tony B. Liar’s speech today was right on the button. Of course coming from him, his words are likely to push the Momentum Marxists in the opposite direction.
My tip for the next leader is Angela Rayner.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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Maybe, if she gets someone to fill in the application for her!
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Guest 2982- Registered: 20 Nov 2018
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Charlotte Cornell was an amazing candidate and the loss in votes was to do with Brexit. Tories and labour lost vote share in remain constituencies, but while Tories gained vote share in leave constituencies, Labour lost over 10% in leave Constituencies. Popularity of the candidate had little to do with this.
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:I spoke to a number of them over past 2 years but I still think they are under the impression they can just walk into seats
Thankfully those days have long gone
Labour heartlands also gone in many areas
Just blaming brexit isn't enough
They have 5 years to involve themselves in communities building up from the commu ities
But I suspect they will tear each other apart from within
And blame everyone else for the heavy defeat
Rather than question why
Where do you even get the idea that anyone thought they could ‘walk into seats’ ?
You are not involved with the local party as far as I know, so why do you talk about it as if you know anything ?
Button
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Dolly wrote:Tories and labour lost vote share in remain constituencies, but while Tories gained vote share in leave constituencies, Labour lost over 10% in leave Constituencies. Popularity of the candidate had little to do with this.
Though not in Canterbury, I gather.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Thankfully dolly
Your correct I'm no longer involved with them although. We are desperate for an effective opposition
Highly unlikely for 25 years
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Labour keeps choosing the wrong leader, it's thoroughly depressing. It has to be Keir next - Labour needs somebody credible if/when Brexit becomes a shambles....
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Brian Dixon
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neil, I thought Brexit was in shambles.
Button- Location: Dover
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Neil Moors wrote:Labour keeps choosing the wrong leader, it's thoroughly depressing. It has to be Keir next - Labour needs somebody credible if/when Brexit becomes a shambles....
Very good - like that one, NM!
Certainly dresses better than Mr Corbyn, which reminds me of my mother's description of a defendant when she came back from jury service: "such a
nice young man, with a twinkle in his eye and really well turned-out in his suit". (I suspect she was joking too.)
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Just on the dress sense
Iv always felt you should not judge people by there appearance
Labour now is in a no win situation
Stick to its present left position and electorate won't elect them
Move to centre ground or right wing get elected (like Blair did)
Isolate itself from its core values and membership
There used to be clear dividing lines between Labour and tories
Labour for the working class tories for elite
. This had become very muddled in last General election
But iv said before I used to visit Llanelli in South Wales a lot
30 years ago they used to weigh the lab votes
But lab got to cocky and In some wards were unopposed for years.
Slowly over the years independents got elected and now lab just about holds the council
Another rock solid lab area that took the electorate for granted
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Neil Moors wrote:Labour keeps choosing the wrong leader...
Depends what you mean by 'wrong' of course. But (and this is just the last decade or so) try Campbell, Clegg, Farron, Cable, Swinson; or Hague, Duncan Smith, Howard, May (some would say Cameron and Johnson); also James, Nuttall, Bolton, Batten, Braine; even Bennett, Lucas and Bartley, Bartley (him again) and Berry... shows it's not just a Labour thing. Why? A qualitative intellectual deterioration in ruling class fodder? An effete education in entitlement? Career politics and a dearth of real-life experience? Who knows. But it's a factory line, a mass production of metropolitan stuffed shirts, and Starmer's just one more of them. Not since Charles Kennedy could any of them have done justice to a cap-sleeve t-shirt and a bottle of NBA.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
