Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,875
D Little wrote:There is zero chance of us deporting anybody here legally
Agreed, we seem to have enough trouble trying to deport those who are here illegally.

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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,875
Is the public sector still bloated or just inefficient?
My son's office in Oxford is closing and the staff located to other areas of the country. He is taking either redundancy or early retirement, whichever works out best financially, he is happy as his job has changed for the worse since being taken over by the inefficient tax lot.
If I remember correctly that means the whole of Southern England will not have sufficient VAT officers to do the checks that returns are correct, deep joy for those prepared to take a chance on not being caught fiddling.
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,072
Jan Higgins wrote:Is the public sector still bloated or just inefficient?
Both?
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Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,053
Perhaps there's an argument to go back to Purchase Tax on retail sales, post Brexit, instead of the "in/out, in/out" basis of VAT.
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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Button wrote:Perhaps there's an argument to go back to Purchase Tax on retail sales, post Brexit, instead of the "in/out, in/out" basis of VAT.
Especially since VAT is the reason some small businesses choose not to expand as it would put them above the VAT threshold?
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Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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Captain Haddock wrote:'Free' movement of labour. Here's what you have to do if you wish to use your entitlement (sic) in Poland.
Whereas we don't know who is here, don't know how long they have been here and don't know where they are doing here but are quite happy to pay out for their housing, schooling, health care and all other benefits including child allowance for children they have supposedly left back in Poland etc.
Do you see how it works now?
I not sure I understand. I'm struggling with that statement/argument. If we don't know who is here, how do you think they get housing and school places, or indeed any other monetary benefit?
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Because the well meaning idiots employed by various councils 'refuse to act as Immigration Officers', lack of requirement for IDs/carte de residence/police registration etc and due to the idiocies of 'data protection' law meaning HMG is unable to link up various main-frame data bases
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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Captain Haddock wrote:Because the well meaning idiots employed by various councils 'refuse to act as Immigration Officers', lack of requirement for IDs/carte de residence/police registration etc and due to the idiocies of 'data protection' law meaning HMG is unable to link up various main-frame data bases
Answer = employ immigration officers rather than cut them. (Labour also means work, you don't have to be opposed to all forms of labour in the Tory Party do you?!)
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Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Captain Haddock wrote:Because the well meaning idiots employed by various councils 'refuse to act as Immigration Officers', lack of requirement for IDs/carte de residence/police registration etc and due to the idiocies of 'data protection' law meaning HMG is unable to link up various main-frame data bases
Doubt that fact because so much benefit fraud is discovered by cross referencing information on different Government databases.