howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The new favourite with the bookies is Jacob Rees-Mogg 4/1. David Davis 9/2, Boris Johnson 6/1. I can't see any of them getting the job and think Jeremy Hunt at 16/1 is a good bet.
Jan Higgins
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Not struck on any of those you mention, Rees-Mogg and Johnson being the worst.
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Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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#1 Jeremy Hunt, a man of the people - a typical 'commoner', who just happens to be a relative of Queen Elizabeth II and a distant relative of Oswald Mosley. Didn't I mention the "competitive elite model" somewhere else in the forum?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Broadly agree with Jan on JRM and Boris but party members seem to like them. Davis will be similarly popular and seen as a safe pair hands despite his calamities with the EU negotiations. Jezza Hunt will be popular with the average Tory voter for his efforts in keeping those malingerers with serious illnesses from blocking up hospital beds.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Damien is not in pole position, no pun intended.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Out of those in the public eye I can't think of anyone who would be a really good choice, at the moment it is who is not as bad as the others.
Maybe that is why they got rid of Charlie to ensure he could not be put forward.
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Reginald Barrington
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"at the moment it is who is not as bad as the others. "
Hence we will keep May and the conservatives until a truly viable alternative shows up.
Arte et Marte
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May will probably stay to take the rap for the 50 billion.
but I still don't see the conservatives surviving the 50 billion giveaway?
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Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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BREXIT is the politic poison chalice of the 2010s & 2020s. No matter who was in power, they should have appointed a cross party coalition of MPs as the negotiating team and therefore share the burden. In fairness to the Tories, both parties are too egocentric and believe they can heroically 'sort it out' themselves.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The Bishop wrote:BREXIT is the politic poison chalice of the 2010s & 2020s. No matter who was in power, they should have appointed a cross party coalition of MPs as the negotiating team and therefore share the burden. In fairness to the Tories, both parties are too egocentric and believe they can heroically 'sort it out' themselves.
Said that all along, not a party political issue but needs the best brains to tackle 27 member states.
Keir Starmer or David Davis??
Button
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Agree with the coalition* - far too many Select Committees, media outlets and previous parliamentarians raking over the coals for my liking. As for the negotiations, Mr Davis with a supporting team of civil servants, not politicians.
* and with the poisoned chalice comment too.
(Not my real name.)
Captain Haddock
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:Said that all along, not a party political issue but needs the best brains to tackle 27 member states.
Keir Starmer or David Davis??
I have met Starmer. I was not impressed.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Guest 1997- Registered: 3 Mar 2017
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Really? I'm sure he spoke very highly of you.
Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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I bet the Captain give Keir Starmer real earache, Tintinus perhaps.
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Tories missed a trick with the coalition. It worked during the campaign, (Gisela Stuart, Kate (bonkers) Hoey etc) and would have been a great way to share the burden/opportunity.
Now, the Tories will be fully blamed if it all turns into a scheisse show, which is why I still think that vote on the final deal would be smart. That way you could turn to the public and say you guys started it, you guys finish it.
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Weird Granny Slater
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Arlene Foster? She's currently de facto leader in any case.
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'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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I Dare, et Dedit, ego Gove.
I give, I gave, I Gove... with umpteen et tu Brute immediately after.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I can only think that the reason Philip Hammond still has his job is because he knows where the bodies are buried.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5321995/Rees-Mogg-hints-SACK-Chancellor.htmlhoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Courtesy of the Telegraph - love the Tortoise reference.
Theresa May's leadership is being openly questioned by MPs on all sides of her party amid accusations that the Conservatives are "letting the country down". The Prime Minister yesterday faced criticism over both her Brexit strategy and domestic agenda, with one MP calling for "less policy-making by tortoise and [more] policy making by lion". Six senior Eurosceptic Tories raised concerns over the Government's approach to Brexit amid mounting calls for the Prime Minister to sack Philip Hammond. Around 40 Tory MPs are said to have submitted letters of no-confidence in Mrs May, just short of the number required to trigger a leadership contest.
It comes after Mr Hammond triggered a furious backlash from eurosceptic Tory MPs and back-benchers by saying that there will be "very modest" changes to the UK's relationship with the EU after Brexit. Nadine Dorries accused Mr Hammond of disloyalty over after he appeared to back calls by business leaders for a soft-Brexit during a speech in Davos last week. “He needs to go. He needs to have the PM’s back and he doesn’t,” Ms Dorries told ITV's Peston on Sunday. “He's not being loyal to the Prime Minister." On Friday Owen Paterson, a former Cabinet minister, said that the Prime Minister must "absolutely put her foot down" after the Chancellor's intervention.
Over the weekend it emerged that Marcus Fysh, the Tory MP for Yeovil, told fellow MPs on a Whatsapp group: "I think we should insist on Hammond’s resignation. It is absurd he is still in post. He has done nothing to prepare the country for a decent negotiation.”
