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#1
I've started this thread really to get us another in the "...in turmoil" series.
On the other hand, according to Mr Sunak, politics is indeed broken and has been for the past 30 years (despite various forms of devolution). I daresay WGS agrees it's broken now at least, on the grounds that having two main parties barely a communion wafer apart is not exactly a meaningful choice.
Rishi is reported as saying "We've had 30 years of a political system which incentivises the easy decision, not the right one. Thirty years of vested interests standing in the way of change. Thirty years of rhetorical ambition which achieves little more than a short-term headline."
I'm not sure what he means:
1. Backbenchers have too much power, making difficult decisions (er) difficult? Doesn't mesh terribly well with the current administration's large majority.
2. The General Election cycle is too short, rendering projects with a long lead-time at risk from cancellation by a subsequent administration? Well, true enough I guess, though there could be mechanisms to protect them without extending the GE cycle.
Er, I think I run out at this point; I just don't understand 'incentivises the easy decision', 'vested interests' or 'rhetorical ambition'.
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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#2
With general E. Very little changes , look at present announcements where labour (if labour elected ) to carry on with Tory policies for two years .
Then with national press already moving in on labour to decide if it will support labour which is looking likely purely because they will sing to the national press tune
Those of us without to much voice in these areas should be the worried ones
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Weird Granny Slater
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#3
If Sunak had said 'We've had 30 years of New Labour' I'd at least have given him the benefit of the doubt on intellectual capacity and self-awareness.
As it is, the answer is in Deckard's question: 'How can it not know what it is?'
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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#4
It's desperate stuff - hoping that we won't notice that he was an integral part of the very thing he wants to change! The political cycle has run its course and there is very little, if nothing he can do about it.
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#5
I don't think many dispute the Tories have all but given up .
The question Is a large number of people just won't vote as they have no confidence in any of the above .
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Button- Location: Dover
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#6
According to the Metro, Mr Sunak argued that mitigating the risks of AI should be a global priority alongside stopping nuclear war and pandemics, though added that he did not want to be alarmist and said it was not an issue "people need to be losing sleep over right now".
Hm, I don't think it's up there with 'Build the Wall' in the clarity stakes.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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#7
'Eschatology. Eschatology. Eschatology.'
probably wouldn't swing with voters as a new Blairish slogan; so I'd suggest
'End Times. End Times. End Times.'
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#8
Looking worrying for any future elections
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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#9
Government holds a risk register of what it considers as the greatest threats to the UK. Maybe he's hinting that AI is on that somewhere. Interestingly, a global pandemic was always number one.
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#10
It's routine fear-mongering. In forum terms, Sunak's bumping a thread.
'...the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary'. H. L. Mencken
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#11
Neil
Im and off to Farnborough soon, but surely with the internal battles opening up in your party, you are at least a little concerned should Labour win.
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Button- Location: Dover
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#12
Weird Granny Slater wrote:It's routine fear-mongering.
Right, so a case of 'these are not the droids you're looking for '?
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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#13
More like 'See that toy you're happily playing with, kid? It's actually really scary. So Daddy'll fix it so you can play with it and not be scared. But if you scare Daddy, he'll tan your hide and sent you to your room'.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#14
Vote for ¿¿?????????
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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#15
A new poll reveals that even mashed potatoes think UK politics is embarrassing.
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Button- Location: Dover
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#16
Ah, now if it's a Boris joke you're after...
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#17
Last night's question time had reform close to denying climate change
Tory just spending all night attacking Labour in Wales for all the problems .
Looked at times like a playground .
As bad as it was it had to be stopped at one point because of the personal attacks on individuals .
As much as I don't like the Labour shadow minister I thought she handled herself quite well
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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#18
'Denying climate change'? Quelle horreur.
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#19
Keith Sansum1 wrote:
Tory just spending all night attacking Labour in Wales for all the problems .
Surely it's reasonable when looking at how a Labour government might affect us, to look at the record of the Labour adminstration in Wales - or is it that Wales had 'the wrong sort of Labour' just like a bloke in 'spoons this morning (reading the Morning Star!) told me that Russia had the 'wrong sort of Communism'?
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Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#20
Going to be a boring election
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