howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I am surprised, or am I? So, despite that we have a huge social housing shortfall Mrs Elphicke thinks she can free up £40 billion from our current housing system. I'm not so sure about that!

Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I would think the conservative party would -should be pumping cash in,
To provide for all the new comers they have just rolled out the welcome matt for
ps.
Charlie's misses is a bit of all right
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i didn't quite understand the article - it seems to be about taking money of out the social housing pot and try to get more affordable housing.
how does this actually work in practice, where does the money go?
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It was either a very badly worded article, or the theory its based on is seriously flawed, because it made no sense to me either Howard.
Ross Miller
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She is suggesting that relaxing the borrowing rules for Social Housing providers, will mean they can borrow in the market rather than have access to government funding
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She is also proposing that the current debt-only funding profile of housing associations is inefficient and that injections of equity would reduce funding costs.
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how does this actually work in practice, where does the money go?
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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The government will borrow /print money ,the taxpayers will pay the interest on the bonds ,the national debt goes up
The money will be given to the banks at a very low interest rate practically for free
The banks hedge fund managers will invest in house building construction for rent
The taxpayers will pay housing benefits on the rents
Basically they will all get rich the economy looks good for the coming election
The taxpayers gets bent over.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The latest Tory housing policy document.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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On the general subject of social housing I was going through the planning list comments on the old hospital development, in particular the meeting at Triangles where Mr Digges outlined his plans and the response from residents. The main theme was that the carncel should build 4 or 5 bedroomed houses to ease the problem of overcrowding locally. Perhaps those living in such conditions should have thought of that before churning out offspring so liberally or even buying a large flat screen telly from Brighthouse that would have kept them better occupied?
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Jan Higgins
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:On the general subject of social housing I was going through the planning list comments on the old hospital development, in particular the meeting at Triangles where Mr Digges outlined his plans and the response from residents. The main theme was that the carncel should build 4 or 5 bedroomed houses to ease the problem of overcrowding locally. Perhaps those living in such conditions should have thought of that before churning out offspring so liberally or even buying a large flat screen telly from Brighthouse that would have kept them better occupied?
Large families usually miss out when new social homes are being built.
As for your other point, with so many TVs now having internet connection maybe they were engrossed in some of the more 'interesting' sites that I have been told can be found on the world wide web.

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Brian Dixon
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howard, honestly by the time you paid for it at brighthouse, you could have brought 3 at currys/pc world.
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Captain Haddock
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Each year in Dover District we have roughly 200 registered births and 400 deaths. We are becoming fewer. So why should we fill the district with breeding boxes for displaced Londoners especially when many of them are 'problem' families dispersed by London councils?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote:Each year in Dover District we have roughly 200 registered births and 400 deaths. We are becoming fewer. So why should we fill the district with breeding boxes for displaced Londoners especially when many of them are 'problem' families dispersed by London councils?
Rather irrelevant Bob as we have a lengthy list of "local" people waiting to be housed "locally".
Jan Higgins
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Births do not take into account families who choose to come into the district to live using private accommodation but for various reasons might need social housing in the future, which is what happened to me many years ago.
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Captain Haddock
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:Rather irrelevant Bob as we have a lengthy list of "local" people waiting to be housed "locally".
Not irrelevant at all. It's happening under your eyes. I suggest you get out to Aylesham and talk to locals who are up in arms about Newham council buying up homes in the 'New Garden Village' then Howard................
How would you feel if you spent almost half a million on a house in the countryside to find a dysfunctional family of stabby feral kids moving in next door?
(Matters are not helped by the fact that information about clients where Social Services and other bodies are involved are not being passed to KCC when they move out of the London Borough. Data Protection apparently!)
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Full marks at twisting things around Bob but we are talking about building social housing for Dover district residents in need of a home.