Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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Barryw
interesting you don't disagree the tories are happy to throw evewn more omn the dole!!!! cos that will be the outcome, so thats the benefits system(costs)that will increase summat you disagreed with.
doesn't quite add up now barryw does it?
Yep labour no better im happy to be as critical of them on public spending, so its not just an attack on your lot.
So its more for the dole then!!!!!!!!
watch your backs lads and lassies
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith - you have to live in the real world and make difficult decisions that will be painful to some. The financial mismanagement of Labour requires massive cuts in spending.
The simple fact is this - businesses cannot be expected to suffer all of the pain of this recession. The more of the pain you thrust on them the greater the longer term damage to the economy, the more difficult it will be to get back to sustained growth. It is only the wealth creating private sector that can power this country out of this mess and the more burdened they are by high taxation necessary as a result of high government debt the worse things will be. They are also burdened increasingly by rules and red tape.
They need to be relieved of this burden and that means massive cuts to Government expenditure and a reduction in the role played by Government in our lives. So yes that does mean a lot of public sector redundancies - its in evitable. The 'freed up' wealth creating sector can do what it is good at producing profits and expanding, those 'redeployed' from the public sector will then be able to get employment in the wealth creating side of the economy to their benefit.
We need to go backwards in order to progress and get out of the problems. Simple.
If you cannot understand that then that reflects the weakness inherant in Labour Governments, they always forget the importance of the wealth creators.
We are approaching what is starting to be called 'the post-beaurocratic age' as a reaction to the way UK PLC has been run over the last 12/13 years. We will have smaller leaner fitter Government that will employ directly and indirectly a lot fewer people and we will not expect the Government to do as much as some expect now. It the way of the future.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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in a nutshell, people thrown on the dole, meaning a higher benefits payout.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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No other choice thanks to Gordon Brown. If the redundancies are not made in the public sector then there will be even more redundancies in the private sector. The priority must, absolutely must be with the private sector as we are dependant upon them for wealth creation. By easing the burden on the private sector you will help create jobs into which those made redundant in the public sector might fill.
Lets be clear it has to be that way round. You cannot just keep employing more and more people in the public sector at great cost, new jobs must come from profitable businesses. The public sector as a whole is over protected and bloated, that has to end for all our sakes.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i must admit that i have dealt with some right divs in the public sector.
i will shed no tears from them.
i must stress that none of the staff that i have dealt with at ddc can be included in that, notwithstanding the asbo section.
even then i doubt whether it was their fault.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The trouble with the ASBO (or CSU) department at DDC Howard, is that in most instances their hands are tied by stupid legislation which protects the offender more than those being offended against.
Whoever wrote the rules, lives in a world made of cotton wool that protects him or her from the one that every one else lives in.
Roger
Ross Miller
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See RBS has posted a profit of £15m - not spectacular, but given all their problems a decent enough half year result
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Agreed Ross but the underlying figures are not so rosy, this result masks a £1bn institutional loss. But still, things could have been a lot worse and any profit must be welcome even a small one like this.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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Oh I agree Barry - but as you say it could have been a lot worse
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi