Brian Dixon,I never thought for one moment that I would be in agreement with you so quickly. You are quite right, How could those nasty Israelis have the gall to edit there reports of the violence against those poor arab loving scum.
After all we all know that those on board had no inkling about the israeli embargo which has been in place for three years. How could the Israelis be so crass to edit anything, how undemocratic!!.
Thank goodness that the arabs practise democracy in the true spirit of the law
Now let me think?? Oh yes how about filming the brutalisation of dead american soldiers in Somalia back in the eighties it has to be said to there credit that they did not edit any part of the shocking scenes. Truly democracy in action I am sure you will agree Mr Dixon.
Bob Frost,
If as you say Hitler was all of those things, then one has to ask "What had he to live for"???????????????????
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bob
are you sugesting that adolf hitler was a guardian reader?
Howard, good point!
But as many others have pointed out, there is very little difference between the far right and the far left, neither trust the population to get on with their own lives with a minimum of interference. Hitler was of course a National 'Socialist'.
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jimmy long,i supose you are going to tell me next that the holicast didnt happen and a certain adolf hitler was your grandad and that he was miss understood.if the dead yanks didnt want to get brutalised why where they sticking there noses in where it wasent wanted along with many other places.the israelies are a bunch of hipocrits with a yanky attitude which stinks.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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bob
you are beginning to sound like blue barry now.
he always maintains that old adolf was a socialist, a bit like gordon brown.
Brian Dixon,
I am so dazzled by your grasp of history. Your intimate knowledge of my family history. Your ability to put your point across so precisely,your skill at spelling.
Have to admit I am in awe of your talents. It is a pity you are so keen to forget the Americans who made the ultimate sacrifice so that numpies like you can sit on your computors and slag any one off who is trying to protect you and your children. You could never expect an arab to make any sacrifices on your or my, or any ones behalf because that is what arabs do,they dont give a s**t about any one else.
I find it quite insulting your insinuation that Adolf Hitler was my grand father. If you are going to try and be clever get your facts straight. Adolf Hitler was my father.!!!
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Jimmy, glad the DNA tests have come back. At least Lloyd George can stop worrying now.
I was standing at the bus stop today when a bloke came up to me and said 'When's the next bus due?'
I hit the anti-Semitic bastard. Was I wrong????
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jimmy long,wouldnt give the time of day to the yanks,they are a war mongering bunch of time wasters.if it wasnt for the arabs you wouldnt be able to drive your car,go for a bus/train ride etc.
And you don't get friendly fire from the Arabs either!
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Brian, it is not so that all the people in one country are bad, because that kind of accusation is how Hitler started justifying his genocide policies! Let's keep calm!
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alex,i am so calm and chilled i have a layer of frost covering me.its called being layed back.
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Brian Dixon,
What exactly have the arabs done for me?? well let me think??
(To be continued in a year from now if I think I can find an answer)
There wouldn't have been that super film "Lawrence of Arabia" without the Arabs Jimmy. Imagine it differently, "Lawrence of Upper Bad Munchen", hmm. not quite the same eh? Be grateful for small mercies.
Sid Perkins,
Would that be the same "Lawrence of Arabia" filmed mostly in SPAIN and ENGLAND I wonder??
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Brian, you say 'i have a layer of frost covering me.its called being layed back.'
SWMBO has just said WTF and where were you last Friday. Grateful for denial. Bob
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Back to the point. As David H has pointed out the 'commando's sent in were not elite troops and the amount of camera coverage they were met with shows that the organisers of the "aid convoy' were expecting them and were prepared to make a propoganda point out of it.
No Brian they were not 'peacefully going about their business', they were preparing to run a well known and well publicised blockade. That the Isreali blockade goes far too far in the things it prevents getting to the Gaza Strip is clear but so to is their reason for fearing the importation of weaponry under cover of 'aid convoys'.
Had the Isreali's meant to do more than stop and deter this convoy then the past history of their military and Mossad would show that they would have done a better job. Had it not been as much a propoganda exercise as an aid mission there would probably have been less camera's ready and the response to armed boarders would probably have included knives as well as iron bars. Being a natural cynic, if I was an Isreali I would really want to check out the Irish ship that held back from the convoy and then headed in.
Questions do need to be raised about the whole fiasco, but of both sides. The Isreali's need to be persuaded that their criteria for the blockade needs serious investigation, partucularly on the basic food and medical supplies they are preventing from getting through. At the same time the motives of the organisers of the convoy could do with some intensive scrutiny.
Rant over.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
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chris,i agree with you about the aid bit,but israel needs to be broght to book about there semitisum.
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What I really want to say here is, Jimmy, as you mentioned the Arabs, that the Arabs belong to different Peoples, they consider themselves according to their Nation, and also the Arab language varies from one country to the other. They also have a sense of cohesion among Arabs in general, may-be something like Europeans have (!? what have I said!), but Egyptians and Lybians do not consider themselves citizens of the same country, nor do Lebanese and Syrians, Saudis and Yemenites, and so on.
We just must not make the disputes between Israelis and Palestinians into a dispute between Israel and the Arabs, and then risk getting involved in it!
I believe that the Arabs are our natural allies of the future, the people with whom we ought to have fantastic relations, as they need us, and we need them! Our Country could do a very lot of trade with Arab countries, on a reciprocal basis, the Arab population doubles about every twenty to thirty years, they risk inheriting a future of arid desert when the oil runs out, and we just sit here going bankrupt running after every bankruptcy of every (most fertile) e.u. country!
We are letting golden occasion pass away!