Anyone want to have a pop @Cicero 55BC
- 30 December 2008 12:1511672
"The budget should be balanced!The Treasury should be refilled,public debt reduced,the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered & controlled,assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt! People must again work, instead of living on public assistance! "What a profound sense of logic this guy applied.Now come on who is first in - 30 December 2008 12:3811676Absolutely right Paul. Age old truths never change.
- 30 December 2008 13:0611677Well, Cicero ended up decapitated, his hands cut off and head displayed in the Senate house. Having the gift of the gab and being able to talk common sense as a politician doesn't always pay. As you say, nothing ever changes.
- 30 December 2008 13:1011678The sad thing is that this Government haven't learnt any lessons have they - doing exactly the opposite of this ideal.
On every count, it is good advice - but how does Keyneshan (?) philosophy fit in ?
Roger - 30 December 2008 13:3411680David Cameron would be the modern day equivalent of the guy who fiddled while Rome burned I suppose.
- 30 December 2008 14:1211681Not an answer Sid. Where is your philosophy?
Watty - 30 December 2008 14:2311682Cicero also bemoaned the youth being, "out of control and having no respect for traditions or their elders". Goes to show how foolish it is to ignore our history and brush aside the lessons of the past. Peasants (actually baron's) revolt over poll tax anyone?Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
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30 December 2008 16:1511689no govermeant,no single politicion ever learns a lesson.all partys are the same get in get power cock it up and then blame every one else. - 30 December 2008 16:2711690and I bet no-ne can name one thing the Romans have done for us. Ok, apart from irrigation and roads.
As it is still 2008 I'd like to stake a claim for Robert Owen as a forward thinker and father of progressive politics [2008 is the 150th anniversary of his death]. - 30 December 2008 16:3411691Maybe Cameron could learn a thing or two from Cicero who once said "If you aspire to the highest place, it is no disgrace to stop at the second, or even the third, place.
Words which may be of great comfort to Cameron in the forthcoming years and elections.
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I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter) - 30 December 2008 16:4411692Sid
To try and answer your question here are some examples of things that Romans introduced to Britain that are still in use today:
Architecture, Art ,Literature. Language(Latin)
Sanitation (sewage) Aqueducts, Education, Irrigation ( water supply)
The calendar, Coins, Cement, and bricks. Public heated baths
Turnips and carrots. Apples, pears and grapes,Cabbages & peas, Benefits (free food) for poor citizens
Roads, Paved streets and pavements.,Wine, Cats ,Stinging nettles
Towns, Glass, Street Cleaners, Shops
Laws, Tenement Blocks, Public order, Firemen and Police
Parks, Public libraries, Public notices and advertisements.
I,m sure there are plenty more like pizza restaurants ...lol
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter) - 30 December 2008 17:1111695Enough of this Monty Python/Life of Brian sketch. If we leave this Government in power much longer, we won't have country to be proud of. Every single thing they get involved in turns bad.
Roger - 30 December 2008 17:3111700Hear hear Roger. Bring back Ted Heath, Thatcher and Major eh? What did they do for us though? Apart from the three day week, blackouts, record unemployment, jackboot industrial relations, problem estates, poor schools, etc etc
I suppose at least you knew where you were with them, in the smelly stuff. - 30 December 2008 17:5511701Roger
Both my posts were accurate and bear no relation to the life of Brian sketch.Unless you are doubting my book of quotes or the equally well known facts of the Roman legacy.
With regard to 'leaving this Govt in power' I'm afraid you/we have no choice.They were democratically elected and shall remain in power until either a) the end of their term or b) Gordon calls for an early election.
Cameron has no magic wand to wave and recently indicated that he will cut taxes if elected and slash public expenditure.So it may be wise to take photos or videos of our High St shops,Schools and Hospitals, Police and Fire stations located in Dover to to remind ourselves of what Dover looks like before it becomes a ghost town should the Tories gain power.I kid ye not.Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter) - 30 December 2008 18:5011706does this mean that we have to start enlisting foreigners to join our armies so that we can march on gaul?
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30 December 2008 21:0011720romans allso left us straight cobbeled roads. - 30 December 2008 21:4211726Marek
I have always admired your research on your postings, very good, and even your view on cameron and the tories I share.
At least people starting to see that labour wil be there again, once Gordon calls the day(apart from those die hard people who told me gwyn would lose his seat 3 general elections ago and still hes there and loking likely to get in again!!)
cheers marek. - 30 December 2008 23:5411729keith
when do you think that an election will be called?
my guess is the year after next.
gordon has a lot of good work to finish yet. - 31 December 2008 08:5811738And when he finishes, so will the country be finished.
Roger - 31 December 2008 09:0511741Really Roger - remember, he saved the world!
