Sid Pollitt
16 January 2009
13:5012950I think that David Cameron is facing a turning point [maybe even a crisis] in his stint as Tory party leader. He is facing a resurgent government and his frontbench appeared to have gone awol. There is talk of him bringing back David Davis and Ken Clarke which may cause as many, if not more, problems than they solve. Then there is party discipline from his MPs and, with an EU poll in June, MEPs. Can they be kept in check? The idiot who dressed up as Maddy McCann is relevent as this behaviour makes people think that is the way many of Cameron's party members carry on behind closed doors and while that is probably not the case it adds to an unheplful image.
The big problem I see for Cameron, aside from a lacklustre frontbench before and after a reshuffle, is if he feels he isnt getting his message across and starts to slip in the polls. He may then resort to Plan B as did William Hague and Michael Howard and turn his attention to appeal to his core vote, this will please certain sections I'm sure but it may frighten off voters as happened in 2001 and 2005.
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16 January 2009
14:1212955Sid,
Idon't think DC knows yet which direction to go, he has his right wing members waiting to slay him,
on the other hand he knows the ultra right of his party won't get him elected.
Hes had his im fluffy nice DC period
Now people are waiting to see if he has any real backbone
trouble is peopl now getting fed up of waiting.
He will lose election another leadership election follow soon after, tory party go back to its right wing base and become unelectable
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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16 January 2009
14:3312957Your two dont seem at all in touch with what is really happening.
I suggest that you keep in touch via politicshome.com to find out more about what is happening.
I wont bother to give a line by line rebuttal because it is simply not worth the time. All I will point out is that all of the three most recent polls indicate, as expected, that the Brown bounce has been reversed.
Two or three more polls this weekend are expected to confirm that.
Dont you worry your little heads about what DC is doing or about the Conservative front bench, they are head and shoulders above the pigmies on the Labour front bench.
Brian Dixon
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16 January 2009
14:4712960Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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16 January 2009
14:5012961Brian
now ou can see why i wanted politics page removed from the main thread
most don't read it
we had a far better conversation yesterday about dogs/goldfish/and finances
far more interesting
by the way they cost me £80!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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16 January 2009
14:561296480 quid not bad i was looking at 100 if not more.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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16 January 2009
15:0012965you could have paid it, i wouldnt have objected! lol
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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16 January 2009
15:0312966I did not ask some time ago if anybody could name 6 members of the Conservative Front Bench, excluding Cameron and Osborne. Fraid I got no response. Says everthing about the Conservatives , no policies and no interest.
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16 January 2009
15:0412967Dave1
See we can agree
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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16 January 2009
15:0512968what ever kieth,dave apart from the two you mentiond the others are not worth talking about, just a bunch of has beens.
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16 January 2009
15:0712969brian
see we can agree
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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16 January 2009
15:1412970yes on this ,is tory bashing a new sport invented by knobs like us.
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16 January 2009
15:3012971You said knobs, Brian - who am I to disagree!!!!
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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16 January 2009
15:3212973as if you ever would our barryw
All i try to do is let you down gently,
hate to see a man cry!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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16 January 2009
15:4312975me to.i see cameron has launched his green economy policy,it looks like we will changing to american dollers when he eventuly takes over,just got used to putting her magde in my back pocket now i got to get used to george washinton now how bland.
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16 January 2009
15:4812976Thankfully brian we won't ever see DC in number 10
Once he loses next election the ultra right will push him out
watch this space!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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16 January 2009
15:5812977or the ultra left commie gits.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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16 January 2009
20:5413002don't worry about the ultra left commie deleted expletives brian.
barry has sent them all to his extermination camp.
the ones remaining will be sorted by your goodself.
a pallet load of bricks is winging it's way to you now mate.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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16 January 2009
21:1813009does that include the sand and cement as well,have i got planning permisson for my piramid shaped nuclear bunker.
Sid Pollitt
19 January 2009
00:2613153As I said on this thread on 16 January, Ken Clarke is coming back to the shadow cabinet and this may well prove to be a turning point. Clarke is a bit hitter compared to the non-entities on the Tory frontbench it is true but already the right are condemning the move and so is one of their biggest donors, is his name Wheeler?
The two wings of the Tory party have been tolerating each other for the past couple of years but this move may see an outbreak of civil war especially in a year of a european election, with Clarek being pro-europe and most within the party not being so keen.
