howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I seem to remember the consortium pulling out due to uncertainty over the port ownership, Bobby G was trying to sell the port off to the highest bidder at the time.
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:I seem to remember the consortium pulling out due to uncertainty over the port ownership, Bobby G was trying to sell the port off to the highest bidder at the time.
That's the excuse given by DHB and DDC.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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So much for honest journalism the Mercury copied and pasted Andy's post to their page.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/staff-in-shock-as-shopping-103577/howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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If any employees at the Wharf look in here is how to claim your unpaid wages. Going from memory it only took about a week to get the money through.
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Guest 1590- Registered: 22 Oct 2015
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It always seems to happen so close to Christmas.I hope the local political parties,of whatever persuasion,can work together to try and exert some form of pressure to make sure that the people that worked there can get the money owed to them as quickly as possible.
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i Think the D,H,B,can only blame themself on this one by the way they have cut them self away from the town and the way they are hand in the RD works.
Guest 1590- Registered: 22 Oct 2015
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I also think that it is very important that whatever takes De Bradelei Wharfs place adds to the economy of the local district .It cannot be just accepted that now vacant it becomes subsumed into an ad hoc plan I.e. pulled down and used as an extra freight parking area for the Western Docks Redevelopment Scheme.
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Golden opportunity, along with Cambridge Terrace, for all the post-BRexit innovators and entrepreneurs to beat a path to DHB's door.
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Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
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No idea what this has to do with Brexit
Button- Location: Dover
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Wasn't that the point of BRexit - the opportunity for SMEs to take back control of regulations and to seize the day?
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Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
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Button wrote:Wasn't that the point of BRexit - the opportunity for SMEs to take back control of regulations and to seize the day?
I don't remember that bit tbh. Cambridge Terrace has been open to developers for years, Cullins Yard has been for sale for a while, the pier has closed and Snargate Street is single lane chaos. Brexit has yet to take place, I'd suggest it is spurious at best to link it with the closure of de Bradelei.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I think most people who voted to leave the EU did so because the country needed to be taken back from the clutches of bureaucrats.
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:I think most people who voted to leave the EU did so because the country needed to be taken back from the clutches of bureaucrats.
Partly true, people voted for all sorts of reasons, the biggest single factor was immigration.
Button, whomever he/she might be, hints that de Bradelei would have survived if we'd voted to Remain. The proprietor at Cullins Yard might talk about issues nearer home.
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It wasn't my intention to hint that de Bradelei would've survived had the Referendum vote been to remain - sorry! I simply meant what I said in post 28, following on from John Heron's point about a successor that contributes to the local economy.
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Guest 1831- Registered: 1 Sep 2016
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de Bradelei was a very innovative and creative idea to take over working sheds and working docks.
This was pushed and carried out by the more humane decades of the Dover Harbour Board under Sloggett and Soppit etc. Caring for the Community/ staff etc.
Ofcourse, when the transition from working docks to Marina's and Retail Outlets was muted and mulled. We were promised an Ocean Village similar to Southampton, where Cruise Ships, Marinas etc would "save and regenerate" Dover. Heard all of this before?
It is like the Gods have a Chess Board of Dover, and when all ideas fall apart, and the collapse comes.
The Chess pieces start to move around again.
All the same ideas, although they have failed before. Come up again and again, but get moved on to another part of the Port and Sea-front. Leaving a trail of destruction and waste behind them.
This is not emotion, but fact. Cambridge Terrace - The under-used space and constant flattening of the Eastern Docks speak for themselves.
Dover Harbour Board are masters of spin.
Trouble is, we residents are constantly living in a state of flux and fumes. Not really wanting to get too use to anything, since it all gets taken away, flattened, destroyed and banned.
Carrots are waved everywhere - new retail outlets around the Cruise Terminal / Western Docks. What a horrific walk!! DTIZ the St. James Area was better, before it was flattened. Wonderful flint houses etc. If de Bradelei with all its variety, concessions and choice, in a prime, picturesque position cannot survive, I wonder what can ?
Just to add. I went down to de Bradelei early this morning. To convey to anyone I saw around there, how sad and sorry I was for them losing their jobs etc. Bass line is - All of the inlets of concessions, who are not employed directly have all been paid. They are now busy with clearing their units, and waiting for transport for it to be collected. It is so sad, because they have no jobs, and were very committed. There are 50 direct employees in de Bradelei,, they have not been paid.
This is brutal.
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Guest 713- Registered: 19 Mar 2011
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What will happen to the ships bell.the ships head (the lady) ,the model ship & the balloon theat was hanging in the cafe. I hope the can find a place for it somewhere in Dover ,not just left to rot.
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Guest 713- Registered: 19 Mar 2011
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What will happen to the large ships bell the was in the entrance also the model ship,the ships figure head(the lady) & the balloon with the people looking down on you in the cafe. I hope it will not just be left to rot.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Both of our museums have already put out feelers for the above and also the playbus in the cafe that has given such enjoyment to young children.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Cllr Peter Wallace has been working flat out since the news broke putting pressure on the liquidators and advising staff of benefits they can claim, the thing is it is not his ward. It is either Town and Pier or Castle and their councillors seem to be rather reticent on the matter.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Out of touch Howard.Before some one jumps on the band waggon Peter is a. Family man and has a job.He makes time to help others.
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