Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Please read my letter in the open letter page about opening our mines again.
Vic Matcham
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Hmmm..... reopen them...... highly unstable, flooded, infrastructure gone... who would want to work there now !!!!
New ones maybe....
Been nice knowing you :)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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vic
you are indeed a determined citizen, but paul is right in what he says.
may i add that it would not be profitable for someone to come in and open them now.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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It is also 3000 odd feet down (and I think mostly under the sea) so it would make more sense where it can be open-cast....
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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Vic
Im sure (as an ex miner)the mines are now flooded and the cost of reopening them would be realy high.
Our Maggie destroyed them all those years ago, and I cant see such a venture ever getting off the ground.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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It was Arthur Scargill who destroyed coal-mining, not Maggie.
Roger
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Found this quite amusing..
Why is Margaret Thatcher hated so much?
She shat on the working class.
Sold off all the council houses so that working class families can't get decent housing these days and are forced to rent from Slumlords at high prices
Sold off the Utility Companies to Private owners so that now pensioners freeze to death in winter because they can't afford the expensive fuel prices charged by these profit-hungry monstrosity companies.
Stopped free school milk
Poll Tax/Council Tax (making everyone pay a huge chunk of their income to the Local Authority in Tax with no regard as to their ability to pay this)
Decimated our Heavy Industries costing millions of jobs - at the height of her power there were 3 million unemployed!!
Destroyed the Trade Unions, robbing the working man of the right to stand up for himself
Turned this country from a place where people lived in strong communities with a sense of culture and heritage into a capitalist hell hole where everyone is laden with debt, morals and tradition has gone to the dogs and no-one gives a sh*t about each other and only cares about credit cards and consumer crap.
Maggie is the reason this country is in such a mess today. Evil horrible woman, she's hated by everyone except the businessmen who made money under her.
Just another persons view but one I totally agree with.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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COAL is on the way back I have already said why, but in two years time coal will be a major fuel again
oil is going up and up and now we have clean coal coal has come along way over the years and now it is ready for the big come back it will also help to hold back the cost of oil, and we can get the coal out alot better then 25years ago
vIC mATCHAM
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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I agree with you Marek!
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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Met her daughter the other day,takes after her dad! She seemed the 'worst' for wear on friday afternoon and when she staggered back on Sunday at7am.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i always remember a front page from "private eye" magazine from the time of the falklands war.
it was the usual photo opportunity of the time.
the boss looking serene whilst the concubine is pointing into the distance.
the bubble from his mouth said "look!! that looks like a pub over there."
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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There are 2 different types of coal mines...one is the mineable coal that can damage the enviroment and is expensive and dangerous to mine.The reserve figures differ greatly from 200 - 2000 million tonnes.
The other type of coal is referred to as Underground Coal Gasification and in the UK the British Geological Survey found that the coal resource potentially suitable for UCG was an extra 17 billion tonnes or 300 years at current consumption. UCG has substantial economic advantages, is apparently environmentally friendly and provides a secure domestic energy supply for decades to come
Underground Gasification of Coal (UCG) is the gasification of coal in the seam underground, obviously, and, as such, avoids many of the expenses and disadvantages of traditional mining, whilst generating a fuel with a low emissions profile and the potential for simple carbon capture and storage. The ratio of worldwide inferred to proven mineable coal resources is about 6 to1, indicating that the potential increase in recoverable resources using UCG is enormous, with a total gas volume estimate on the order of 6,900 Tcf.
Through the underground gasification of coal could lead to the generation of power from syngas and natural gas.It's worth considering and is on our doorstep or should I say under our feet.
To which type are you referring to Vic?.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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I think Roger is a little off-beam there saying Arthur Scargill destroyed the mining industry and I would be interested to know why Roger thinks that way, as surely this is not the case. Arthur Scargill fought tooth and nail to keep the mines open after Mrs Thatcher and the Conservative government shut them down.
He was not a popular man in government circles, who just hoped the mining problems would just go away somewhere far. He was ebullient and abrasive but as I understand it is still a hero among miners to this day. He fought to keep their jobs. In other words he did the opposite to what Roger suggests, and as I said earlier there, he fought to keep the mines open, in some of the most vicious strikes ever seen. He was arrested too on occasion by the constabulary as he was a hands-on mining leader and was in there in the thick of it.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I have just found this info about UCG on the web.
The underground gasification of coal produces a high quality synthetic gas that can be processed to provide fuels for power generation, diesel fuels, jet fuels and hydrogen.
HYDROGEN
Hydrogen has been widely predicted as the fuel of the future. It meets all the environmental challenges of reduced CO2, particulates and other emissions, but still requires government backing to establish the required infrastructure. BCG intends to be at the forefront of the hydrogen economy and, by processing UCG derived gas, can establish significant production of hydrogen in the near term
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DIESEL
UCG SynGas can be processed into a high quality diesel by the Fischer-Tropsch method(not sure what this is..sorry folks). This syn-diesel has significant environmental and performance benefits over oil-based diesels.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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Paul
Roger is WAY OFF BEAM it was maggie that had a crusade to close the pits, and had a bigger picture of an attempt to destroy one of the strongest unions at the time.
Whilst Scargill wasn't an angel in the bitter dispute, the way Maggie and her clones set about attempting to destroy trade unions was discraceful.
It was a bitter dspute, and the miners chose the wrong time to have such a dispute(if there is a good time with that govt!!) Maggie learnt from bitter past experience that the miners union was strong, so she made no excuses and was clear that her main aim was to destroy the N.U.M. but more trade unions in general!
Thankfully many tade unions survived her onslaught, any totally unfair way she put obstacals in way of unions to stop them operating, many still grow today.
Marek has shown many of the reasons MAGGIE was (IS) hated even today
and not by your everyday socialist
many miners were right wing rabid tories, and they couldnt understand why there own govt set out to destroy them!
its sad it finished like it did, complete bitterness, and sad for the country
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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there is still a lot of bitterness in the old mining communities.
the nottinghamshire pits closed soon after the dispute ended.
a fair reward for their "loyalty".
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Coal is cleaner today you can get to it better and their is lots of it, I know our M.P. looks in on this forum so can he gave a comment on this,after all it could save his seat and the government if it worked out.
Vic MATCHAM
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Vic
Did you read my 2 articles above?If so I would be interested in YOUR views and any comments you have to make on underground gasification of coal.After all you started this thread not Gwynn.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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victor would be far too busy planning his parliamentary assault, and making kites to lower himself to such a mundane subject.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Howard
He started it.....boo...sucks...lol
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
