howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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i read today that the above mentioned has won an architectural award.
nice to hear a success story from our council.
i reckon that the our new seasports centre is deserving of something similar.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
yeah the most ugliest building ever.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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brian
have you seen it from the beach rather than the promenade?
i think it is excellent, well designed for people to have a quiet meal and/or a drink whilst watching the action on the channel.
will make paul b redundant!!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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i am talking about the new sea sports center howard.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Yes I saw the feature about Deal Pier and the restaurant in The Mercury..but as I understand even local Deal people were baffled as to why it was listed for an award.
Brian I think our seafront centre looks good Im with Howard there. Seems a strong modern design but anything of architectual origin is clearly open to personal interpretation. Some are sure to like it and some to hate it. My only concern is that it looks very close to the water on high tide stormy days. Could it get flooded out!?
I'll see if I can get a picture of it in a minute. Very clear today in the bright sunlight.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Yes here we are...Dover looking tropical this morning in the blistering sunshine. The Watersports Centre looking good??
DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
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The water sports centre is ok, not bad but not great. I wouldn't really call it modern by any stretch of the imagination.
The structure at the end of Deal pier is a serious piece of architecture and quite rightly deserves an award. Beautifully detailed and much better up close than from a distance.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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Deal Pier,awards yes but so over budget it is unbelievable,why over budget,well the quote was given and then they found a problem,the cafe is at the end of the pier,and most of the building stuff couldn't go through the entrance,result had to hire a boat as I understand it.Quote was WWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY,out but I am sure my learned friend Sue will reveal how much it was more than the original quote.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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I would have thought the Watersports Centre was modern DT as it looks so much like the advanced type structures featured on that C4 programme .. name of that escapes me for the moment. Not a Gherkin its true but for what it is....
DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
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It is what it is, but I don't think it merits architectural acknowledgement. As I say it seems OK and fit for purpose. It's a stylish building and looks well thought out, I'm not saying anything negative about the design here. However the only thing that is 'modern' about it, is that it has been built recently. When Wimpy homes build these nasty little developments with PVC Georgian sash windows, they are also 'modern' by this definition. My point is that it is hardly thought provoking, where the structure at the end of Deal pier is a delight.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
as prince charles would say its a carbuncle.
DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
- Posts: 1,116
Prince Charles should keep his mouth closed on such subjects (and most others for that fact). I'm amazed the RIBA let him address them this year.
Guest 663- Registered: 20 Mar 2008
- Posts: 1,136
The new water sports centre good addition to the seafront better than the old place they are use to,lets hope its well used.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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can we forget the architectural arguments for a minute.
the building is actually designed for its purpose, giving great views over the channel and all the shipping movements.
i cannot think of a better place to be in dover for an evening drink.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
i can its called calias,and the beers are cheaper.
Brian - when are you moving, mate? We will miss you - email from Calais.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
bern why dont you come and join us you no it makes sense.ps the vino is cheaper as well.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,019
When Deal Pier Cafe was first discussed the figue was £750,000 put into the budget it ended up costing double that amount .That is why I voted against it .The extra money it cost could have gone towards toilet refurbishments ,Kearsney Abbey Lakewalls and of course the Clarendon play area .I was a lone voice .
The Seasports Centre has taken years for completion and it was built to house water sports .I dont think a wonderful building was ever required just one building to house all of the sports .
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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Thanks for that Sue,I had a feeling it was over budget by about£700,000
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
- Posts: 3,391
IS IT TRUE meals on deal pier not up to much?
