Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Why do they have to pay ?
Poorest set for 'perfect storm' on benefit cuts: the low-paid, disabled and jobless
will be hit hardest
Millions of households will struggle as low-paid workers, disabled people and the
unemployed bear the brunt of welfare reform, according to analysis by the housing
charity Crisis. It warns that homelessness will rise and queues for food banks will get longer.
The new measures coming into force tomorrow include the so-called bedroom tax,
which will mean housing benefit cuts to social housing tenants deemed to have
a spare room. This will affect 660,000 households at an average loss of £14 a week
, according to Crisis.
The policy is provoking a bitter response, with thousands attending more than 50 bedroom
tax protests in towns and cities across the country yesterday, including London,
Glasgow, Leeds, Bristol and Cardiff.
Housing benefit cuts for those with spare rooms is just one of 10 welfare changes
identified as creating a financial "perfect storm" for the country's poorest.
These include a reduction in council tax benefit for most of the 3.7 million low-income
households that receive it; the introduction of a benefit cap which will see 56,000 households
losing an average of £93 a week; the abolition of crisis loans and community care grants;
the replacement of the Disability Living Allowance with the Personal Independence
Payment (that half a million fewer claimants will be eligible for); and the removal of
legal aid for welfare advice.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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my main worry is for her majesty, imagine how she will be affected by the bedroom tax?
won't be much left of her civil list dosh when that gets taken into account.
Guest 859- Registered: 13 Jan 2013
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I think we all know the easiest way to solve the amount of money the government are paying out, but i dare not mention it as it gets people into trouble but would easily slash 1/4 million people at least from the welfare system, sorry if that upsets the minority, but its the truth.......nuff said on that me thinks
PAUL SWINERD
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Why would anybody be apologetic for upsetting the minority?
Other than that, Mr. Swinerd, I cannot comment.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Keith Sansum1
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Yep wrong ones get hit every time
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Some very wealthy people are on the welfare system, receiving State and even EU subsidies while owning enormous estates...
Hope these are among the 1/4 million who'd be slashed from the welfare system.
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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Reg, face facts. We all know that the disabled and the unemployed caused the financial crash of 2008. To pretend it was the hard working bankers rather than those feckless individuals is to try an re-write history. The sooner they are stripped of all their entitlements and the bankers bonuses are restored to their appropriate level the sooner the economy will recover.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Now that is what a ``` just a tongue in cheek comment```looks like............Howard...........
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i would go a step further and wheel clamp their mobility scooters reg.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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i see the poor,the sick,the disabled and the low paid are getting screwed as from today.
100 back benchers have there knives out for osbourne,aparently they can see what gidion cant,and say he is out of touch.they futher say he is like limp cabbage and needs replaceing with w.hauge.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the joke is that ian duncan smith openly admits that the benefits bill will not drop.
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Will never cease to amaze me that everyone is suprised when tory policies attack the vunerable to line the pockets of the rich, it has always been so. In years gone by, the landed gentry provided occupation for their dear wives and daughters as " lady bountifuls" visiting the sick and poor in the parish with baskets of cake.......
I predict a riot!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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lesley,is that an open invite.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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The Budget thread .......# 132........last sentence........```A Poll tax in the making ?```
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Brian, the sad truth of the matter is that if you opress the working classes they become to sick and afraid to stand up to the bullies.
I cannot remember when I last had a conversation with someone who did not have the welfare of a relative or friend as a major concern.
Guest 687- Registered: 2 Jun 2009
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Why do these 'threads' always include the words disabled, vulnerable and poverty but never a mention of the 800,000 plus who no longer claim disability benefit because of the new rules. I am not totally supportive of the new rules but I would like those opposed to them to suggest ways they would rewrite what has regrettably become a flawed system.
I should point out that post 15 applies to me as I have a nephew who claims disability benefit and has recently had to face a very strict panel to retain his benefits as should everyone who claims.
I may be biased as I recently worked with a chap who drove HGV until his death and his wife had to return his car which he had accepted instead of disability benefit payments.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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'Words' will always be a problem or an issue or a sticking point...
Claim and award are two such sticky words. If one is disabled can it be said that one merely claims to be so, or is disability an award of some sort?
If we stick with 'disability'.
Could we agree that there are two main types of (non employable) disability;permanent (chronic) and temporary (acute).
If so, can we not exclude the 'chronic' from incessant employment capability tests and simply make provision for their education (physical and mental), an education that could lead them into money making of some sort, but would certainly help with their quality of life. [no claim, no award]
Now to the 'acute';the broken leg, the serious illness etc. and their respective periods of recuperation. The recovery of full fitness in such cases will differ from case to case, individual to individual, but will in all cases be overseen by the GP. [no claim, no award]
So much for the easy stuff.
What of their needs?
I'm fairly sure that it was the Greens who put forward the idea of Universal Welfare, where each of us is deemed to get some set amount. With those earning above this amount get no help and those earning below get some help. Certainly an idea like this would sweep aside all further wrangling.
Are you with me Ken?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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ken refers to a flawed system, with him on that point - the problem is the pendulum has swung into an even more flawed system.
atos are not there to ascertain who is fit for work but simply to get numbers down regardless of each persons infirmity or lack of.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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ken,i would like to know how and what the 800,000 are now living on.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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job seekers allowance brian, a small saving on paying out incapacity benefit but more importantly a great headline for the blues.
