Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,835
26 August 2010
22:2467345I think a lot depends on if you choose to work abroad for financial reasons or if you are sent abroad by your company.
But what do I know.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
27 August 2010
07:4067365If someone has taken up overseas residency, then surely they should forfeit their right to vote ?
What amazes me is that people who live in warmer climes, still get winter fuel allowance and we're trying to reduce costs !
My older brother and his partner live in Cyprus and they get winter fuel allowance - we (the Government) must be mad to allow this to continue.
I love my brother, but he/they should not receive this allowance; they chose to live abroad.
Roger
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,888
27 August 2010
07:4167366Quite a debate opening up here
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
27 August 2010
09:3167375the issue can get a bit blurred, roger is right about overseas residency, but what about someone who is merely working abroad for a period of time?
27 August 2010
09:5867380Roger, you advocate a British cirtizen living abroad having no rights to vote against a government that raids their pension fund to pay for political motivated fripperies? How do you justify this?
You advocate a British citizen living abroad not getting a winter heating allowance? It does get cold abroad in the winter even though it may be warmer than here. Even in Lagos the temperature plummets from 25-30 degrees to a chilly 18-20 degrees. Believe me, once acclimatised one notices the drop in temeprature. So how do you justify denying a what should be a universal benefit.
It seems to me this debate is being driven by an illl-informed sense of envy toward those who find themselves either perceptively better-off or who have chosen to live in a warmer climate. Hmm, Politics of envy, not good.
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
- Posts: 573
27 August 2010
10:5767387The heating allowance Sid was brought in for the benefit of people living in this country, not for those living abroad. In my opinion those that take it out of right and yet live in a relatively hot climate are no better than the so-called benefit scroungers they constantly condemn.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,835
27 August 2010
11:3667393Sid...
Do what the rest of us have to do when the temperature drops and it turns a little chilly, put on an extra layer.
A ten degree drop is not the same as the twenty to thirty degree drop that we get in this country.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
- Posts: 1,266
27 August 2010
11:5367398(Andy thinks to himself : "Careful not to be a 'Xenophobic Tw*t' (unquote) here"....)
It seems fairly clear an issue to me - you either accept that foreign residents have the right to decide on the taxes they pay and the laws of the land they have taken up residence in, or you think that the way Great Britain should be taxed and governed should be open only to the indigenous people. If you think the former, then that is an opinion I do not share with you; if you think the latter, then I believe you're only acting as any native inhabitant should. Try emigrating to any Arabic country, any East European country or for that matter to the USA and telling them that you'd like to have a say in the running of their country to see what sort of response you'd elicit. Quite rightly, imho, you would be told where to get off - exactly as it should be: if you take up temporary immigrant status, you implicitly agree to be governed by the laws and fiscal policies of that country's government and if you don't like it, don't go there. If you become a citizen of that country, that's an entirely different matter, but that's how I see for temporary status.
Those of you who disagree with me are perfectly entitled to do so, but try to keep personal insults to a minimum this time. Please.
True friends stab you in the front.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
27 August 2010
18:0567447I'm sorry Sid, but in my view, if people decide to live abroad full time, as opposed to just temporarily working abroad like you were in Nigeria, then they give up the right to vote on things back in Blighty.
Similar to the winter heating allowance. We don't have enough money to keep our own people warm, why should we pay for people who live abroad permanently, to have their heating bills paid for by us ?
Roger
Unregistered User
27 August 2010
19:0867453Andy,
Is that twit or ****.
Why be coy?
Watty
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
- Posts: 1,266
27 August 2010
19:1867455For reasons of decency, Paul, which I suppose answers your question! And, it's a quote, character for character......
True friends stab you in the front.
27 August 2010
22:4367536Those overseas residents are mainly retired folk living on their pensions. As Labour clearly demonstrated, working all your life to pay for retirement doesn't make you immune to a grab of your money/savings by the government.
What did the Yanks fight for? No taxation without representation.
So, if you want to cast the lotus eaters off, then don't take their money. It cuts both ways I'm afraid.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
27 August 2010
22:4767538in a nice climate, why do they need a heating allowance?
28 August 2010
00:3567549Because it gets bloomin' cold in the winter. It's all relative to what you're used to when it's hot. When I got picked up at Nairobi airport by 4 guys in overcoats I poked fun at them. They told me it may be 80 degrees but they were used to over 100!!!