Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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29 December 2009
10:3635828for sticking to their guns and executing a drug smuggler...
Maybe if we dealt with such vermin in a similar way we would have less of a drug problem.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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29 December 2009
10:4935830BarryW see the Open Letters Page, I made a post there on this very topic this morning. Its so non-members can have a say on the topic over in that section, you might like to add to that there too.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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29 December 2009
14:4035845As I said on the Chinese train post the other day, the usual condemnations will come from the government and dogooders. So now, drug runners will be unable to use other mentally ill people to smuggle the drugs. Perhaps it`s saved the lives of other`s of his kind, and also prevented a few more would be drug takers from becoming mentally ill themselves.
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29 December 2009
14:5635847Please see my post on the thread PaulB started. I would rather be a dogooder than the implied opposite.
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29 December 2009
15:1135848Read your other posting Bern. Interesting. Again though, it`s one of those very big questions in life. How much value do you put on human life. If someone killed one of my children, and sentenced to hang, I wouldn`t lose any sleep on them swinging from a rope. My children, like yours and everyone else in this world, deserves a good chance in life, but if someone wishes to abuse it, and take someone else`s, then they should lose there`s. Dogs, cats horses and a multitude of other animals put down everyday, because they`re not wanted. Yet this animal species called humans, are so special that we must not kill them, no matter what.
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29 December 2009
16:5235852Colin I think you have a very good point there.
29 December 2009
16:5735853If anyone hurt one of my kids I could, without blinking, tear out their still-beating heart and eat it. That's the point: put the victims in charge of the outcome and there is cruelty and anarchy. Punish, exact justice, confine and remove freedom and liberty - but don't confuse vengeance with justice. And don't murder a vulnerable sick man.
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29 December 2009
17:0935854Beautifully put Bern.
There is a certain irony in us, Britain, adopting the Chinese reaction to drug trafficking when we did a great job of trafficking it ourselves into China in the 1800s.
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29 December 2009
17:1635855Bern, I`m pleased at your first line. That bastard who murdered those poor little children in Dunblane must have had a mental condition also, though not diagnosed. How many people in this world could do such an appalling act. Yet, if he hadn`t done the cowardly act of killing himself, and we had the death penalty, how many in this country would ask the government to show mercy because he had a mental condition?
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29 December 2009
17:2335856You`re right DT1. But like the slave trade, we`ved moved on.
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29 December 2009
17:2835857To the point of murdering a sick and vulnerable man. Woo and Hoo.
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29 December 2009
17:4135858I don`t know what his mental state was Bern, but going onto the internet, the list of symptons is endless. We`ve all had some of them. Regarding drug trafficking, there are many vulnerable youngster`s out there who are going to wind up sick with mental conditions.
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29 December 2009
17:4235859#10: Have we Colin?
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29 December 2009
17:4535860We`ve moved on DT1, but in alot of things, not always for the better.
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29 December 2009
18:5935861Personally, the way I`ve always viewed a person with a mental problem is either in a hospital being cared for, or at home with family, freinds or a carer. I wouldn`t expect one of them to be out in the far east. Not a good place to be for suffering a health problem, and a remote area at that.
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29 December 2009
19:0135862Reading a list of symptoms on the internet and recognising some of them as universal does not make for a diagnosis Colin. I have worked with vulnerable people for decades and have witnessed the havoc bipolar can wreak when it is not managed or controlled. Experiencing occassional depressive symptoms or being a bit excitable at times is nothing even near to the reality of bipolar, and before we leap in to condemn a man for having symptoms we should stop and consider realities. I totally support your condemnation for drug traffickers - I have also seen the havoc drugs can cause: I have a special nightmare (among many) that returns at tired times, of a young man I worked with whose own father had given him his first experience of smack, a young man genuinely desperate to stay clean but battling odds far above his capabilities, whose face reminded me of my own son who was a similar age at the time. I could personally rip the throat out of anyone offering/peddling/pushing/dealing drugs to the vulnerable. But I recognise that some of them are themselves victims - we need to break into the cycle of dependence, not break the victims of it.
29 December 2009
19:0235863#15 - Colin - part of the challenge for bipolar is that it causes people to do risky things and to be uncontrollable.
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29 December 2009
19:1235864Yes Bern, I read that, but then where do you draw the line? Reading the symptoms, anyone could go to their GP, give them a few of those symtoms mentioned,(and I`ve had a few of them), be patient for a year or so, then go and rob a bank and if you get caught, get your solicitor to tell the soft judge that my client suffers from bi-polar. BERN, I`m not cold and heartless, but why was he out there in the first place? Bet it wasn`t to visit the steam railways still operating out there.
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29 December 2009
19:1535865Not so, Colin - it doesn't work that way!! Trust me!! If you look at the details, he was there because he was disordered and ot of control, which builds to a picture of mental disorder in itself. Beingbipolar doesn't stop you from travelling, like maybe being in a wheelchair might - quite the reverse, you would be more likely to take off in various directions and be difficult to persuade otherwise. With the greatest possible respect, unless you know about it it is impossible to fully grasp the implicatuions.
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29 December 2009
19:1635866#17 - On a lighter note, politicians do alot of risky things, and with that tax fiddling, seemed to be quite uncontrollable. Are they all suffering bi-polarism?
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