howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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5 January 2009
23:2312191barry
there were no scare stories at the time.
paul made the pronouncement, there was no time for people to digest the facts and discussion to take place before the crosses went into the box.
keith is not guilty on this one.
put yourself into the footwear of the voter, a big no strings offer made at election time.
thinking back, i remember one of our more sensible posters(ed connell) saying later that he would have voted blue up until that point.
to be even more boring, the message seems to be that serious issues should be raised a long time prior to an election.
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6 January 2009
08:3812202Don't disagree Howard.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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6 January 2009
08:4412204There were many scare stories peddled by Prosser and by Labour supporters in the media and on this forum. It was discussed at length howard. Right amongst them was the claim that foreigners would buy the Port.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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6 January 2009
10:5612217This was not a scare story Barry,Paul and you confimed on here that you were/are in favour of selling off the port to the highest bidder.We have seen that selling off the silver rarely works,Gas Electric Railways Hospitals the money always goes out of our pockets into someone else's pocket.To running costs come down no,the Goverment is still putting money into the Railways and we have just had an 8% fare rise,this money will not all go back onto the railway it will go to share holders.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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6 January 2009
20:1712231the point i was making was that there was no time for people to digest the facts.
the proposer(paul) sees this now.
the posts since have gone down the party dogma road.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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6 January 2009
21:1312234Never thought I would see the day that our own paul w attempts to silence me (public servant)
well well paul, isn't this sad, when because i don't share your view you attempt to silence me
I had a lot of respect for you in the past, even though I disagreed with you on most subjects.
What I would NEVER do is attempt to silence you.
Maybe you should reconsider your posting, im quite happy to go but you recall posters on here cried out for some one to post on here other than the official tory one sided views which made the forum look like it was a conservative party machine.
Iv posted throughout, but if posters would like me to stop posting cos our very own paul w doesnt like alternative views then ok!!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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6 January 2009
21:2012235keith
i think you are taking comments a bit personally.
don;t forget that records of events in the past get blurred.
when i came on here originally over 6 years ago, you and paul were already old stagers.
i hope this will continue.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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6 January 2009
21:2212236Im happy to
but you need to read the comments closely
what hes saying is public servants shouldnt post (as i say trying to silence)
not his usual way
and have to say lost some respect for him
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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6 January 2009
21:3712241keith
that is something that concerns me.
when you joined the old bill, there were problems in the priory area due to anti social behaviour, we fell out over your continued role as chair of the forum.
nowadays it would not be a problem, but tensions were high then, and i felt that there was a conflict of interests, especially as i had that stand up row with that copperess that quoted my stuff from here.
i do not see a problem with you posting general political stuff now though.
the forum would not be the same without you and paul crossing swords
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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7 January 2009
08:5612257Well fair enough Howard I bow to your higher wisdom!!
You must have noticed paulw comments, and carefully worded to silence, very sad realy, Idon't often agree with Paul but I have always supported the right for everyone to speak freely.
Paulw posting went against all that and took me by surprize, your right Iwill continue to post I just find this comment a little worrying who else that he disagrees with will he try to silence? someone weaker than me?
It was a sad post realy. but maybe the real paulw???
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7 January 2009
09:1912262Keith in view iof your rather nasty comments on the lady from the PCT why should you be regarded any differently as a public servant. What is good for the goose etc.
Perhaps you ought to reflect on your postings. The last thing I want is for you to do is stop posting it adds votes to my party from those who are previously uncommited.
Watty
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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7 January 2009
09:2212263Watty
and you fink you drab tory postings with barryw doesnt make labour even more electable?
Its a diffrence of opinion.
nowt wrong with that.
You know what what you realy wanted! now back tracing
thats fine
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7 January 2009
10:0512267Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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7 January 2009
10:1712268And I say this the port of Dover must not be sold off it is the public of Dover port always has been and must stay that way but we have a fight on our hands with the D.H.B. go to all the meetings write to the papers the Sun does do good storys but the public must get their feelings and the way we all feel about a sale off of our port, the public can win this fight but you all must talk out not to each other but national called a public outcry it can only be done by you, if we say nothing it will go over the next two years.
I remain yours faithfully Vic Matcham
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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7 January 2009
11:5712279Vic
You do have some intersting posts, baffled byb your actions at times
You joined the tories hen they clearly don't believe in public ownership
You commented on no one would stop your posting, the point was, not whether or not I should post, but that a leading forumite and supposed leading tory, and council leader, actually muted he wanted to stifle debate
thats what he said.
its the principle of what he said
so beware disagree with paulw he will ATTEMPT to silence you
he wont silence me either vic, its the point i was making on the way he works/!!
its not a political fing either I actually feel although barryw fell foul recently and got banned on forum I told paulb
i dont fink thats good idea.
that saiwe have to be careful this forum doesnt become a tory manifesto machine
as it has been see in the past
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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7 January 2009
15:2612290I'm sorry Keith, you have twisted what PaulW said completely - and you know it.
Most if not all of your comments have a very political edge to them and if you don't agree, you put something almost quite nasty to it.
Roger
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7 January 2009
15:2612291Sorry, a double post.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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7 January 2009
20:4812299the important thing is that we get as many of the influential people in the town posting as possible.
the fuhrer, keith and roger are all well known, as are the 2 barry's.
not forgetting our own soap box orator victor.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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8 January 2009
09:3112330Not correct Roger, and yes I sometimes have a political slant to my postings(shouldn't I ????)
It was the posting that indicated that public servants shouldn' contribute.
thats a worrying view of our paulw.
but an interesting one.
Guest 643- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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8 January 2009
11:2012337For goodness' sake keith - this thread is about DHB and it's possible sell off - not a silly vendetta against anyone you don't agree with or who says something you don't agree with.
PaulW as our council leader has explained, in language even I can understand, what the councils stance is on this subject and explained the pros and cons of it all - thank you Paul. We have got comments and opinions from many forum members both for and against the sell off but none as personal as you make it. PaulW hasn't told you not to post, he just commented that to his knowledge, public servants (which you are as a PCSO) were not supposed to be associated with politics. Can you not post with your views instead of slating anyone who isn't labour all the time?
One last point, PaulW and Barry are just that - Paul and Barry - they are their own people,not "ours", they belong to no-one but themselves.
Incidentally - this letters section of Dover forum is not meant for politics - there is a seperate thread for political items.
Have to say I have enjoyed reading all the different opinions on DHB, good points raised by PaulW, Barry, Roger, Howard, JHG and even VicM!
There's always a little truth behind every "Just kidding", a little emotion behind every "I don't care" and a little pain behind every "I'm ok".
