Guest 658- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Just seen conservatives gain Dover.
beer the food of the gods
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Congrats to Charlie but commiserations to Gwyn.
Elphicke Conservative 22,174 44.0 +9.1
Gwyn Prosser Labour 16,900 33.5 -11.8
John Brigden Liberal Democrat 7,962 15.8 +0.0
Victor Matcham UK Independence Party 1,747 3.5 +0.8
Dennis Whiting British National Party 1,104 2.2 +2.2
Michael Walters English Democrats 216 0.4 +0.4
David Clark Christian Peoples Alliance 200 0.4 +0.4
George Lee-Delisle Independent 82 0.2 +0.2
Majority 5,274 10.5
Turnout 50,385 70.1 +2.8
Marek
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Guest 658- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Let us hope that Vic done well.
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Guzzler
Results added to my post above.
Marek
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Guest 658- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I was hoping Vic would have come 3rd still he came in front of the bnp. Well done Vic
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Guest 695- Registered: 30 Mar 2010
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Yes well done Vic, I can't believe how many votes BNP actually managed to achieve. If I'm to be honest I think it's a disgrace that people don't actually understand what they stand for. It's about time some people in this country actually took their heads out of their posteriors and acknowledged that times change. We really do live in a multi-cultural society and we should embrace that rather than fight against it.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Congratulations indeed to Charlie - a good hard-fought battle and well worth all the effort.
Commiserations to Gwyn, but he can retire with his head held high.
I know this is Charlie's thread, but Thanet South was gained by the Conservatives too.
Any one know how Julie Rook did in Wolverhamton ? I've looked for the result but can't find it yet.
You gave it your best shot Vic.
Roger
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Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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congrats to charlie
ROGER
RESULT WOLVERHAMPTON
LABOUR 14,448 -13.3%
J ROOK 11,964 +4.7%
DT1- Location: Dover
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Well done Charlie.
He put in a lot of work and deserves this win. I am sure he will serve us well.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Thanks Keith (and MRP)
Quite close result in the scheme of things for Julie - wasn't it Enoch's old seat ?
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Thank you for that but it was not only me but my team as well. But we will still be round next time.
Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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Or perhaps, Tony, if the Labour Government had not shown contempt for the wishes of its own people and encouraged excessive immigration they would still be in power. Worse, they have tried to stifle debate on an issue which greatly concerned many people.
The BNP poll is a protest vote - it sounds like you are saying that those people's opinions are irrelevant and who are you to say that? No, I don't vote for them as I don't like what they stand for but if there was no need for them they would not exist.
In any case multiculturalism is an oxymoron and a widely acknowledged mistake, even by the Head of the CRE, Trevor Phillips. Everyone who comes here should be encouraged to assimilate and that is the opinion of the vast majority of people.
The results of the policies which we have been pursuing are fragmentation, alienation, social oppression, hypocrisy, demoralisation, insecurity and creeping soullessness - and a vacuum of values. In fact, if you wanted to weaken and cripple a society this is precisely how you would go about it. Maybe it's you who needs to take your head out of the sand.
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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Congratulations to Charlie Elphicke, and to the Conservative Party in Dover for a job very well done. In the end Charlie won on merit with a sizeable majority that reflects a good deal of time and effort spent well.
I know that Vic is disappointed with his 1,747 votes and I think is being hard on himself. All his UKIP team have worked very hard in supporting him, and in the end I believe the EU issue was overshadowed by the disastrous state of the economy; inevitably this will have led to a diminished vote for the party that was standing on this issue.
Who knows? If some form of PR is the legacy of the 2010 election, then votes cast for the 'minority' parties will have a greater effect in future elections; if so, then a vote cast for UKIP in the future will have a greater bearing on the outcome, which has to be welcomed.
True friends stab you in the front.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i think you are right andrew, governments tend to keep their heads in the sand over the issue, which leads to people thinking that they are forgotte.
hence the rise in votes for far right parties in some areas.
All this Labour talk about electoral reform is just typical of party desperate to hang on to power. They promised electortal reform in their 1997 manifesto and have done nothing for 13 years because they didn't need the LibDem support .
Now, faced with being ousted from power they suddenly are all enthusiastic to beat Nick Clegg's drum and lick his boots. They are nothing but a bunch of desperate charlatans not to be trusted even with an old toothbrush. Well, excepting David Blunkett maybe who, in my view, was the only honest politician on our screens last night.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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sid
are you saying that david cameron will not to try to broker a deal with nick clegg?
watch the television over the next few days and see gordon and david grovelling to nick.
Howard, the Tories under Cameron have never supported electoral reform to the extent and in the way the LibDems want it. As a result, brokering any deal with them is likely to be very tricky, not impossible, but not easy. However, the point is this, at no stage, and that includes his tv speech this afternoon, did Cameron offer anything more than an all-party review of electoral reform. Mingus Campbell derided the offer in the words "we've been there before with Labour and it didn't get anywhere other than a pigeon-hole in Whitehall".
On the other hand, Labour have been promising the country electoral reform for 13 years and have done, apart from sticking something in a pigeon-hole in Whitehall, exactly nothing. Now the P45 is in site, Brown comes out publicly and makes a "genuine" offer to enact electoral change asap. Labour has had 13 years to do this but today suddenly, they are all enthusiastic.
So, despite failing to impress in the voting, Cleggy has found himself "Kingmaker" for the next Parliament.
I'd like to see another GE in the coming weeks, but the only item on the media agenda being to get each party to tell us, "How we will steer the UK through the current financial crisis".
To be honest, I think the lack of this information for the public is the sole cause of our hung Parliament today.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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sid
there is no way that nick clegg would get party backing without a promise from the blues on proportional representation.
the vote for the yellows was their highest ever, despite their lack of seats.
I think that is what is going to make the next 48-72 hours most interesting Howard. An alliance of any sort with Gordie will be played as the "Alliance of Losers" by the media and that could cause untold damage at the next GE, which may be this year regardless.. Boy DC will want a strong mandate, and if the Lab/LibDem pact goes ahead DC is sure to get it as public opinion will be right with him.
If DC/NC come to an arrangement to get Gordie out of No10, there will be much gnashing of teeth by th epurists in each parrty, and that too will force another GE, again this year in all probability. However, should DC and NC rise to the challenge and send out good vibes to the electorate by demonstrating an ability to work together, and get the right results, the annihilation of the Labour Party would become a real possibility.
Unlike some, I am enjoying this part of the process, I just hope it doesn't turn to tears!