Labour's generosity

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• Guest 653

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  7 January 2009     07:4012254
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  You were going quite well Howard until your last line and I really don't understand the reasonng behind it - unless it was just a throwaway insult.
  
  
  
  
  
  Roger
• Guest 674

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  7 January 2009     09:0112258
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  Think MAREK had some good ideas.
  Wot iv said for some time is that NO GOVERNMENT has taken this issue seriously and wanted to take it on.
  
  
  I don't dsagree with Roger on benefit cheats, but its the undertones on how he says it that worries me what his view realy is!!!!
  
  as BERN says.
• Guest 653

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  7 January 2009     15:1112288
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  What I wrote, is what I meant Keith.
  
  I'm not in the habit of writing something other than what I mean - why does what I write get misinterpreted ? take it at face value - it's the only way.
  
  
  
  
  
  Roger
• howard mcsweeney1

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  7 January 2009     21:0312303
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  roger
  the political parties(particularly) the conservatives need the shirkers.
  that is why nothing has ever been tried seriously to solve the situation.
  
  instead of the public pointing the finger at the government for social problems, they have the underclass to blame.
  
  this then leads the tabloids i.e. sun.star,mail and express to demonise them and sell newspapers.
• Bern

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  7 January 2009     21:1312306
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  Hidden Agendas - bless. Always useful for "burying bad news".
• Guest 655

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  7 January 2009     22:1512312
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  howard, that is true only in your imagination!
  
  You really dont understand the Conservative Party at all.
• howard mcsweeney1

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  7 January 2009     22:3512314
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  i am pleased that you consider that to be an answer to my assertions barry.
• Guest 653

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  8 January 2009     07:4712317
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  Howard, what makes you think that the Conservatives need shirkers ? the boot is on the other foot I'm afraid.
  
  Where do you get that idea ? what is it that makes you think that ? It couldn't be anywhere further from the truth.
  
  Conservatives want people employed, want people educated; they want them earning, raising their standards, being responsible members of society, being the wealth creators, owning their own homes, paying their taxes etc. etc.
  
  Who you describe is Labour, Labour are the party of bigger and bigger handouts - the cheats and benefit scroungers love Labour as they never have to work, never have to pay taxes etc.
  
  You really do have it completely and utterly round the wrong way; I can't believe that an intelligent man like you can think that, or again, is that just a wind-up, throwawy comment ?
  
  
  
  
  Roger
• Bern

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  8 January 2009     08:1212321
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  The conservatives are in opposition, therefore the evidence of "shirkers", or anyone or anything that can be dragged up to shift attention from their lack of meaningful coherent policies to an apparent failure by the current government is bound to be a Good Thing for them.
• Guest 655

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  8 January 2009     08:5312325
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  howard - I simply did not give it enough credit to deserve an answer. Roger clearly has more patience than I have at the moment!
• howard mcsweeney1

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  8 January 2009     18:4312364
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  roger
  
  just look at the unemployment figures since it became fashionable to go on benefit in the 70's.
  
  labour are not that good, but the conservatives are far worse.
  
  does that not say anything?
• Guest 653

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  9 January 2009     08:2912397
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  No it doesn't Howard, not at all, absolutely not, no way, not ever. I still can't believe you think that, it beggers belief.
  
  
  
  
  Roger
• Guest 674

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  9 January 2009     08:5712401
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  Howard
  I do see where your coming from, Don't think Rogers picking up your theme
• Guest 653

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  9 January 2009     09:1912405
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  There is no theme Keith.
  
  I know Howard said about people losing their jobs in the 70's, but that was not a case of favouring shirkers for goodness sake.
  
  
  
  
  Roger
• Guest 674

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  9 January 2009     09:2112407
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  Roger
  fair enough w all have views and we all differ
• Bern

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  9 January 2009     09:2312408
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• Guest 674

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  9 January 2009     09:3112415
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  At the end of the day as i said in very early posting no govt will take this issue on
  but nice debate!

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