howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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i don't think that paul w would have taken umbrage with the post from chris p.
all it said was that government and shadow ministers will say anything when they have their backs to the wall, and are in the home town of the problem.
we have a new hospital guaranteed, remember?
sue
would you say that you enjoy the support of your constituents in river?
1 September 2008
07:555510Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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1 September 2008
19:185525Yes Howard judging by my last result when I received the most votes of all councillors. .Remeber depending on how many councillors per ward you have to dived the votes accordingly .The result for me was an increased majority .maybe next time I will not be so lucky but I always will work for my vote .Pity you dont live in River you could have come to the party?
Yes I do enjoy working for the people in River and Alkham.I think some die in the wold labout voters support me .If I did not enjoy it I wpould have given up years ago.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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1 September 2008
20:005530you certainly did recieve the most votes of all councillors, i applaud you.
one third of the residents of River ward voted for you, you may have to work harder to get the vote of the two thirds that didn;t next time.
i wish you well in your quest.
1 September 2008
20:545535Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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1 September 2008
22:205540Yes Howard work harder get those people out to vote .Shame relection on society who donot use their vote.What happens is people unfortunately die and you have to then find new support.When I started on the council the new voters this year were not born ,so you have to build up a relationship with the young.That is not achieved by calling them yobs,but taking an interest in them .
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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1 September 2008
22:375547BERN
I share part of your view;
Sue does work hard, and i have\ to say when she was in oppositon we worked closely on many projects, she was then very open and often controversial, much to the disgust of Nigel at the time, but since she became a cabinet member that edge has gone from her.
Its now about just taking the party/officers line, shame realy cos she has a lot more to offer, i believe(if you understand this) Sue was a better opposition member than cabinet member.
I totaly disagree with johns view on sue being anywhere near a socialist view
never was and never will
she does work hard as do many other cllrs
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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1 September 2008
22:505550Hullo me old mate .Pity you were not at cabinet today I disagreed with the proposed recommendation s twice .Your mates were there so heard what I said and I even had my vote recorded.Not lost the edge .Nigel was very quiet.I certainley prolonged the debate on what they thought would go through un challenged.I even brought up the subject of vast sums of money being spent on projects when i could do with the money to do more houses and shop fronts up .Chief Excutive had to come in at that point .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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1 September 2008
23:105555why did the chief executive have to come in at that point?
what were the vast sums o money being wasted on?
thanking you in advance.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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1 September 2008
23:195557Could I say that, while Sue and I rarely agree on anything, I have always found her to be very conciencious and hard working. Quite a few times I have passed people with problems outside of DTC's remit on to her and she has always dealt fairly with them. Long may she continue to be a thorn in all parties sides and I too am dying to know where this waste is going.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
2 September 2008
07:505566I think it is important to be clear that most of the postings on here about and to councillors appear to be legitimate challenges and not personal attacks. Working for local government in any capacity is draining. However, we do have the right to challenge and reflect to public servants and it is important to do so. The best tool a public servant has to do the job is themselves, and how they present that tool matters.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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2 September 2008
07:555568Sue
Im sure you did challenge the officers, all im saying is you had a cutting edge when in opposition probably cos you had nowt to lose, I feel that has gone a bit.(just a personal observation)
And no, im glad i wasn't at cabinet, those dreary days gone, thankfully
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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2 September 2008
08:035574Maybe getting older Keith .Ikeep seeing the wheel reinvented .Its hard work being in power as you have to work with collegues not against them I think you know what I mean.No way would they support me yesterday .Talk to your mates .
I think Cable Car springs to mind
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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2 September 2008
08:125576Sue
Don't want to dwell on this, do feel you changed when in the cabinet, and you say you havn't not much more that can be said.
I just look at the play area debate and your postings, i'm sure in opposition you wouldn't have taken the line you did, but not to worry at the end of the day there are many working hard for Dover and the District those that do are the ones i envy, but sadly as Sue knows many others get carried in this lot, if only we could get rid of dead wood, but who would decide who that is? All parties hav them sadly not enough people coming forward to do job.
Elections don't decide it, as more people don't vote than vote.
interesting thought there.
but life will go on.
On anothr posting John made the point on the opposition not getting publicity, thats a fact of life John as you know but you should moan at those people who you have told me you are friendly with!!! might make a difference!! you know where i'm coming from.
might come up to full council wednesday
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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2 September 2008
19:495602bern
i must take issue with on our top brass presenting their tools correctly.
i seem to remember cecil parkinson, alan clark,portillo and major doing just that.
2 September 2008
20:495606I stand corrected, as do some of the Tories, I understand.........
Guest 644- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 1,214
13 September 2008
22:056071Will EH be applying for this to be paid out of the grant?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/7614305.stmGuest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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14 September 2008
10:466079Not sure, this has always been on the cards to replace the greenhouse as it was only meant to be a temporary measure.
Been nice knowing you :)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
14 September 2008
19:396096they do need to speed up the ticketing process, sometimes queues form outside of the reception building.
all members of english heritage and friends od dover castle still have to go through the ticketing process even though they are not handing over any money.
