Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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#21
It's pretty straight forward, solve the night flight issue & trade will come.
Watty
Guest 686- Registered: 5 May 2009
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#22
Watty's hit the nail on head I think. It seems very short-sighted of Thanet to reject night flights when the potential economic benefits are taken into account.
Phil West
If at first you don't succeed, use a BIGGER hammer!!
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#23
Exactly what I said in post 9.
Here it is again:
I wouldn't be surprised if Infratil have given up because of the very unlikely chance of night-flights being allowed.
I know (obviously) I don't live near the airport so am not affected by the possible noise disruption night-flights would bring, but I do believe that the benefits have been massively underplayed by Thanet DC and the consultants and I know they are running a Consultation (now closed I believe), but I'm sure they will be losing out, by not allowing them.
If night-flights were allowed, expansion would take place and if the right routes were taken (if slots available at those destinations) it would benefit the whole of East Kent, including Dover (District) - if the marketing is done right.
From what I have seen, marketing is one thing that has not been done properly there, so a review of how it would be done, must be taken.
Very sad, but not surprising.
Roger
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#24
Has David Foley moved away from Dover Chamber of Commerce...he was certainly introduced as Howard notes there as being from the wider sounding Thanet & East Kent Chamber.
Kevin's post 16 sums it up for me too. Promise of new dawns etc but heard it all before. Yet the potential is there. Sad.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#25
David is chief of both chambers, PaulB.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
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#26
Straight forward, yes. But in East Kent, obviously not! Another classic example of failure, and one of the many reasons why I suspect potential investors give East Kent such a wide berth. Unless we are prepared to take a long, hard look at how we attract and encourage new economic development and jobs, East Kent will continue to decline at a rapid pace.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#27
# 14.& 16...26 Agree...........East Kent could get second best again if night flights get go ahead...................
...........we really do have to get East Kent united as one .....then we will have some clout.........
Guest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
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#28
I don't agree that night flights means East Kent gets second best. Permitting some night flights (with restrictions) will give the future airport operator (we hope!) the ability to attract new customers. For freight, airports have to have some degree of the flexibility so that time sensitive cargo is not diverted to other airports because of restrictive operating hours. It's that simple. Most of BA's cargo is carried in the hold of their passenger aircraft. However, they do lease a number of dedicated 747 freighters (three, I believe). They did consider moving to Manston some years ago but were put off by the restrictive operating hours. It would undoubtedly be a major coup for Manston to secure this business, and would raise the profile of the airport with other potential customers. It's clear that passenger operations will, at best, be limited at Manston but freight and possibly charter could work IF it is allowed to.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#29
.....second best meaning freight only not including passenger flights.........
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#30
The Manston consultation arrangements, the proposals and the independent assessment are here...
http://www.thanet.gov.uk/council__democracy/consultation/night-time_flying_policy.aspxIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#31
East Kent Council - more power to over-rule the people ?? Think they need persuasion not force....
Been nice knowing you :)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#32
looking at that link posted by tom it seems that the thanet public were made very aware of the consultation and the arguments for and against.
do we know how many of the public responded?
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#33
I read in the current issue of PE that TDC published a link on it's web-site to the airport's own version of the night flight consultation where Manston said; "your comments may also be forwarded to TDC" Note the 'may'.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.