Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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30 October 2010
18:2477453Vic, if you want Dover to be the same in hundreds of years as it is now, that is the right course of action.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Brian Dixon
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30 October 2010
18:3777462peter,saw you on the late local beeb news,made me feel thirsty enogh for one of your buds.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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30 October 2010
18:5177468Mr Garstin I have been in Dover all my life some 68years the port has moved on alot over them years and could still do the same if left alone.And with some 38,000 living in the Town area and only just 100 of the public turning up today you can say most think the same way as myself.
and even some of them that did turn up was not for it.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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30 October 2010
18:5177469Always welcome Brian.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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30 October 2010
18:5377470My point, Vic, is that while the port has moved on, the town has not kept up.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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30 October 2010
18:5577471cheers peter will be down there at some point soon.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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30 October 2010
19:2377477Info here about the trust
http://www.peoplesport.org.uk/home/.
The point of todays event was to launch the trust and get publicity which it achieved well. Presumably there will be chances to ask questions at a later stage.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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30 October 2010
19:3877479Something isn't right here: if money is being collected in a trust for Dover Port created without an Act of Parliament, without Government authority, and this with the consultations regards DHB's privatisation proposal still ongoing (the Secratary of State for Transport has still got to view all the final comments), then sorry but this is not legal!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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30 October 2010
19:4377481I think the MP is jumping the queue and assuming that if DHB's plan fails, his own will take its place. It doesn't function like that: there are various proposals presented to the Department for Transport, and they all have to be taken into account by the Department and the Secratary of State,
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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30 October 2010
19:4677485I`m not into any of the politics of this Alexander, but I think with 100% certainty, our MP Charlie Elphicke wouldn`t be doing anything illegal in front of the BBC camera`s with maybe a few million viewers watching and listening to him.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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30 October 2010
19:4877487it bothers me that vic is opting out of this issue, his input at meetings of the dover harbour board and others has been immense.
vic, if you are so against any change, make your views known, otherwise bobbyg and charlie will have a clear run.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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30 October 2010
19:5077489Colin, if Charlie could create a trust for Dover Port and collect money, then he would be over-riding Parliamentary authority! He cannot make such a decision by himself! Never!
30 October 2010
20:0377494Went to the People Port presentation, listened and spoke to lots of people who came, most were for it and thought it a fantastic idea, it certainly is and if successful it could be the beginning of making Dover on one of the leading towns in Britain.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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30 October 2010
20:0777495it needs ditz to be in place first,no shops = no people staying here.the redevopment first then the port,plus a hard sell on what dover has got.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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30 October 2010
20:0877496Earlier on this thread someone posted that there were 15 people there all siad and told! Was it so?
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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30 October 2010
20:1277497IF YOU DON'T ASK YOU WON'T GET, IF YOU DON'T TRY YOU WON'T KNOW.
People keep saying " stop bringing Dover down " Well give the guy a chance and we might find out, or would you non believers have it sold abroad.
GIVE IT A CHANCE.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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30 October 2010
20:1677498alex,there was about a hundred there,15 was an estimate to a question posed at post 18,please try to keep up alax.
30 October 2010
20:2077499Well said Ian - give the scheme a chance and people might be surprised, it will be successful.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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30 October 2010
20:2177500Hold on, Ian. I am surprised at what I read in the link that has been supplied on this thread. It implies that Charlie is collecting money from buyers of shares - or bonds or stakes or whatever terminology one might use - in order to purchase Dover Port, and one would assume that these purchasers are believing they will be somehow owners of the Port, and will cash in revenues.
I'm going by what I read, hence ... IF ... it were so, it would be totally unconstitutional!
What we ought to know is that the Dover Port question is a constitutional matter and IS BEING ATTENDED TO by the Secretary of State for Transport and the appointed people who are involved in the matter. What we are seeing here with Charlie's attempts, IF it is so as stated in the link, is a wild charge against all constitutional authority!
Either the information is wrong, hence my IF, or it is right, and very disturbing!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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30 October 2010
20:2377501ian,all we have heard is talk,no facts no figures,no questions have asked no answers given.when charlie actully sits down and tells us the public pleabs the detals of the backers and how much they are putting in,then and only then can it be creadable.no ones knocking dover as such but would like a clearer picture of whats going on.