Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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13 February 2009
05:5115321Derogarory, 'my little Paki friend' - come off it. The chap is of small stature!
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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13 February 2009
06:2415322.....he is also Pakistani, so no offence meant or caused there either.
Its been said before, to use words like Paki, Brit, small, lofty, whatever in a friendly fashion (and the video demonstrates the friendly use of 'small Paki' by Harry) is not being offensive.
However, to surrender the friendly use of simple word to those who intend to use them as offence, is pure cowardice and ranks alongside those who were willing to surrender the Union flag to the extreme right.
In my book the most offensive thing I can call someone these days is 'politically correct' and if someone is offfended by that they should get a backbone and get over it. These self appointed thought police are a menace to society and good community relations.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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13 February 2009
07:3615323English Oxford Dictionary definition:
Paki
• noun (pl. Pakis) Brit. informal, offensive a Pakistani.
End of story.
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Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 650- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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13 February 2009
09:3915330The use of the word "****". It's a pejorative, derogatory towards women. This is one of the words Ron Atkinson used, when referring to a player, and about which I believe there was no outcry.
And now, to put the cat amongst the pigeons ....
(apologies to omithophobic felines. Apologies also to the birds - it's just a figure of speech, and I hope you aren't offended, and if so, I dare say you will note your displeasure on my head next time I'm by the War Memorial)
..... the use of the term "Mr Mayor" when addressing our Mayor. (Unless she herself has chosen that this is the way she would wish to be addressed).
13 February 2009
09:4215331I had assumed we were all grown up? There are clearly degrees of offence. If I had spent my formative years being called, for example, a spud thick paddy and a bomber and being hit or spat at for it, I believe it is understandable if I find those words offensive or intimidating. You may not, because you have not had that experience and cannot imagine it. I may not find the words Millwall Fan offensive, but, hey..........
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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13 February 2009
12:5815340Interesting one there Maggie about "Mr Mayor". There have been quite a few women as Mayor's now, at least three off the top of my head Diane Smallwood, Jan Tranter, Lynn Young too I believe,..I remember when I first went to photograph them I was informed by your one and only brother Mikey Webb town clerk himself, that the correct way to address any female mayor was "MR Mayor". I thought this was odd at the time but as Im a foreigner and the system here is riddled with protocol, just ask Sue Nicholas about protocol, I just assumed it to be a traditional thing.
I am unaware if the women themselves ever objected to the term. But the time might have arrived for a change on this one....although Mrs Mayor doesnt seem to have the same ring to it.
Guest 650- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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13 February 2009
13:2515342I'm aware of the Town Clerk's views. We have many interesting discussions.
Madam Mayor is a suggestion, adopted by a number of local authorities where the lady may prefer it.
It gets wonderfully complicated when over in Calais!
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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13 February 2009
13:3915345Mr Mayor is the correct and proper term along with Madam Chairman for a lady chairman... full stop.
13 February 2009
14:2815350God forbid we should ever change or develop.....................I know - let's start sending children up chimneys again, withdraw the vote for womens and blacks, re-open the slave market and re-colonise the Irish. Because without change and development we would still be in those places.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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13 February 2009
17:1615365But Bern that would mean reclaiming responsability for the American colonies and would any of us want that?
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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13 February 2009
19:0115380210 posts now on the subject of an offensive word.
i wonder if the subject of the bombing of dresden will reach the longevity of this thread.?
13 February 2009
19:1315385Words contributed to the hatred that resulted in the bombing of Dresden, and we should remember that.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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13 February 2009
20:1315394from who bern?.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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13 February 2009
20:1815395i think that the citizens of dresden would much rather have been offended than carpet bombed.
13 February 2009
21:1215398You are missing the point - without the trivialising, hate-filled epithets and insults that fuel racism and hatred, wars and violence have less room to grow. Dresden didn't have the choice between offence and violence - the choices were made when the words were used to create the environment in whcih the violence was grown.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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13 February 2009
21:4815399bern,dont forget germany was the aggreser in that instance.nothing to do prince harry.
13 February 2009
21:5415402I had forgotten prince H!! And I was thinking more of the Nazis and their use of propaganda and words about the Jews, to be honest. It was that that led to War and the inevitable civilian losses, especially in Dresden.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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13 February 2009
22:0015403hitler served with jews in ww1,he was saved many times by his jewish surperiuors,even gave him a few iron crosses during that period.so what does he do trys to exterminate a few years later.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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13 February 2009
22:1015405Taking offense and creating a fuss over something so absurdly minor such as what Prince Harry said trivialises the more serious and substantial abuse......
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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14 February 2009
09:3115423Couple of points if imay
1; someone said all politicians are fair game, im afraid i cannot sharre thsat
opionion in total national politicians maybre crave publicitybut locally and
iv mentioned it on here before today, local politiciians are also at times attacked
by the local media iv seen families torn apart by some of it, thats not the
friendly community paper, so there has to be limits or people just wont
volunteer to go into it. It gets harder and harder to get people to volunteer so
who will, knowing they may or will get ripped apart we need people from all walks of life to volunterer but many are puyt off by this.
2; on thre Prince, as iv said, its not about what barryw feels, its about if you
offended then surely it would be better in such positions to choose your
words more carefully.
The e#arlier post by Mandie on his children hit home to mre on how
comments such as these offend children and can leaD to serious
implications.