Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,888
30 August 2010
08:0767908ROGER
Not sure I totally agree with your comments, but know where your coming from.
Whats forum readers views on the release of more minor offence persons, or even not jailing them in the first place?
This is the sticky one, if people know they can offend(even minor)without jail or punishment then small crime can in time to some become big crime
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,835
30 August 2010
09:0167914I think a lot depends on the definition of minor offence, what is minor to one person might not seem minor to another.
Another thing to be taken into account is how many times a person has committed 'a minor offence'.
A lot also depends on the offender. Some would be 'turned around' just by tagging for others even a fairly long prison sentence would make no difference, they would carry on offending as it is their way of life.
This is a very complex subject and I would hate to have to deal with it. Having said that I think all prisoners should learn a trade of some sort and do proper work in prison, so I am also with Kath on this one.
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30 August 2010
09:4167920There are lots of opportunities for people in prisons to learn, but we need to be able to target the learning so that it is useful on release. And you are so right, Jan, it is complex beyound belief, not least because it is such a political hot potato that any developments are tied to political whim, which is tied to please-the-people mentalities. Somewhere along this line the people who understand about reducing reoffending need to be allowed to do their jobs without pandering to political will. It is no use having to kow-tow to the bullying hang 'em high lobby - that clearly doesn't work as it has never stopped crime!! But there are ways - NOT "soft" ways" - that can do better. It isn't necessary to be "soft" or "hard" - just realistic and objective.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,835
30 August 2010
10:1567925While I agree with those who understand about reoffending being allowed to do their job. I do have worries that some might not be as good as they should be, like the pschiatrists who say mental patients are safe to let back into the community, who then go and commit murder.
Learning should be enforced be it book or trade based then there can be little excuse that on release the prisoner reoffends because they could not get a job.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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30 August 2010
10:1867926I would be the first in line to have a pop at social workers and psychs!! They are a different breed to those involved in reducing reoffending! As a btw, it is impossible to enforce learning, and there are so many variables such as learning disability, poor literacy, mental health issues that need to be factored in. It isn't as simple as enabling OU degrees for all!!
30 August 2010
12:4567948The Daleks have got it right. "Exterminate, exterminate".......
30 August 2010
14:3267953I predict some slapped legs!!!