Rioting in Buckland

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• Bern

  • Location: Dover
  17 August 2009     06:5127400
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  It isn't about choices, it's about irresponsible adults who buy booze for underage kids. Isn't that abuse? Shouldn't the police take it seriously?
• Guest 653

  • Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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  17 August 2009     08:0427403
  #22       report
  Yes Bern.
  
  
  
  
  Roger
• Brian Dixon

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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  17 August 2009     11:3027418
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  bern,it depends who is getting the abuse the kids or the person being pesterd to get it.it works both ways.
• Bern

  • Location: Dover
  17 August 2009     18:4427443
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  No, it doesn't. If children are bought or given alcohol irrespeonsibly, it is abuse. Adults have a duty of care to the young and vulnerable, regardless of their manners.
• Brian Dixon

  • Location: Dover
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  17 August 2009     19:0927447
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  bern my point was that a responsable adult says no,and then loads of abuse wheather verble or fisacale.
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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  17 August 2009     19:3327449
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  the police do take it seriously, the shop opposite the nick has been caught more than once, they are applying to keep their licence.
• Guest 674

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  17 August 2009     20:4327457
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  HOWARD
  And i haVE pointed out other shops being fined to
  
  BRIAN
  Its about whether or not you feel strongly on this issue(and you from your postings appear to have strong views on some subjects)
  
  If im ever asked by youths this outside the shop i do inform the shop keeper and the risk to his livelehood.
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
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  17 August 2009     21:1127462
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  that is exactly what most adults do keith, responsible shopkeepers like to be kept informed what is going on outside.
• Guest 674

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  17 August 2009     21:1627464
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  HOWARD
  Yep, but brian indicated he may not because of abuse
  im afraid i would every time
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
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  17 August 2009     21:5727472
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  i would much rather be sworn at by yoofs than buy booze or fags on their behalf.
  
  one question here, what happens when they go home smelling of either?
• Guest 674

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  18 August 2009     06:3627479
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  HOWARD
  Thats the big question, some parents will sort there offspring out should they become aware they are having either of those 2
  but sadly some parents just don't care.
  Here lies the problem
• Bern

  • Location: Dover
  18 August 2009     06:5127481
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  Too simple, chaps. As a parent who adheres to the principle of consequences (with overall success, I have to say, despite the usual hiccups!!) it is increasingly challenging to enforce the consequnces when it feels like everywhere else it is a do-as-you-please society where there are no consequences. Home then becomes the "bad" place for those nano-seconds during teenage when parents are The Enemy, and it is vital to keep home as the good place if the communication pathways are to reamin open. Which in turn is vital to prevent further bad behaviour. it is a real tightrope act to keep all those factors together! My kids have had their share of teen-stuff, but have generally come out the other side intact and wiser, but it is not easy, and that is why I would rip the b***s off any one of those adults who peddles drink or drugs to the underage and thinks it is ok. Regardless of the verbal abuse one might get, it is never right to cave in.
• Guest 653

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  18 August 2009     06:5327483
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  Here, here Bern.
  
  
  
  
  Roger
• Guest 674

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  18 August 2009     07:0127484
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  HERE HERE HERE BERN
• Brian Dixon

  • Location: Dover
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  18 August 2009     08:0227489
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  as a resonsable adult i dont better still wouldnt buy them fags or booze,regardless of any verbale.
• Guest 674

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  18 August 2009     14:0327498
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  Thanks for clarifying BRIAN
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
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  18 August 2009     16:5327519
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  getting back to the thread, has the area where the yobbery happened been calm since?
• Guest 674

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  18 August 2009     16:5627521
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  Those in Buckland might be able to tell us
  we will see
• Guest 663

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  19 August 2009     18:1627595
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  Tomorrw the three ward Councillors for Buckland have a morrning meeting with the Police Area District Commander.
  So hopefully we can start to make progress and try and stop this from happening again, buckland is a nice area and i'm sure people donn't wish to see it ruined by a few.
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
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  19 August 2009     21:5427603
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  all the best for the meeting.
  
  these things need to be nipped in the bud.

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