Sign in War Memorial Gardens
- 25 March 2009 16:5918157Having double checked, it does come up tonight (under item 4 on the agenda) when the Events committee will be seeking a budget for it.Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour - 25 March 2009 17:1318159How can the Events Committee ask for a budget for something that is still open for consultation - or has it already been decided on ? Is there any point in people writing to Tracey if the decision to do it has alraedy been made ?
Sounds a bit like cart and horse to me.
Roger - 25 March 2009 17:5218164Protest e-mail sent. Hope it's not too late.
- 25 March 2009 19:1618175No, it won't be too late Phil. And thank you, Chris.
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I asked for the minutes from the Events Committee meeting, and have now received them. The Events Committee are asking for monies to be moved ("vired") from other budgets to pay for this.
In the same minutes they state that the "Fairtrade" logo would be the first one they would require for an instaplant carpet bed logo.
They also state that this apparatus will be "secured in front of the War Memorial Statue".
The minutes finish by saying that this is subject to positive replies being received to their "consultation". So one can assume that if they do not receive positive replies, then they will not be going ahead with this.
The people they have consulted are the "Remembrance Sunday" organisations - I assume that means those bodies who lay wreaths. Okay, but one enormous flaw in this is that these organisations do not necessarily encompass the many people in Dover and beyond, including overseas, who remember their lost loved ones from Dover, and who mourn to this day their loss. This means that these individual families who sacrificed their sons, daughters, husbands, wives, brothers, will effectively not even have been consulted.
The Events Committee have said that their imposed deadline for responses is 3rd April, so there's most certainly a point in everyone who doesn't agree with this proposal to continue writing to Tracey. If you do nothing, as they stated in the letter to me, they will assume you agree and that they can erect this sign.The Dover War Memorial Project
www.doverwarmemorialproject.org.uk - 25 March 2009 21:1418197What is the email address for Tracey please?
- 25 March 2009 21:1518199Been nice knowing you :)
- 25 March 2009 21:3618206Ta! Email will be sent in 2.5 mins!!
- 25 March 2009 21:3918207Done!
- 25 March 2009 21:4518209So if we don't write in, we could be faced with something like this?
- 25 March 2009 21:4718210dont worry - and no Phil it wasnt like that
Its been deleted from the agenda at this evenings council meeting.
Thank Goodness!
D
- 26 March 2009 00:3518223Woo, Phil!
Thank you for telling us, David H.
Thank you to everyone, so much, and it's so good the Council had responses quickly so they could be made aware before tonight's meeting. There are further letters going in too, I'm told, before 3rd April.
In Memory. We do not forget.The Dover War Memorial Project
www.doverwarmemorialproject.org.uk - 26 March 2009 08:2718238I meant that it wasnt just deleted from the agenda of that meeting - it was deleted full stop.
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26 March 2009 08:4818241e-mail now sent. - 26 March 2009 09:1318249Great news David - Thank You.
Roger - 26 March 2009 12:0718266Thank you, Brian.
My understanding is that to end the proposal means it has to go through a couple of formalities, eg going back to the Committee so they can withdraw it. But if it's "deleted full stop" from the full agenda, I assume this now will happen.
Thank you for informing us, David, and may the blisters on your tootsies (after your mega-trek yesterday) grow ever smaller.The Dover War Memorial Project
www.doverwarmemorialproject.org.uk - 26 March 2009 12:5118272This should not have got this far, what were the council thinking about.It is the town War Memorial and only that.
Even I am lost for words over it.
Vic M
- 26 March 2009 18:0718292a severe error of judgement has now been corrected.
rather a pity that at parliament level, no-one ever owns up to making a wrong decision. - 26 March 2009 19:0618315Hi Howard,
I was at that meeting of the events, when the proposal of the tilted sign was put forward, it did not look as hideous as the above picture suggests, as there were only 3 members of the events committee present, instead of 9, the desision was made to take it to full Council, but before it went to the full Council meeting it was deciced to withdraw the item from the agenda. If 1/2 the enrolled councillors turned up for the committees they are supposed to be on, perhaps wrong decisions would not be made
Sheila - 26 March 2009 20:2318328thanks for that info sheila, clarifies things.
i did wonder once or twice about attendance figures at meetings!! - 1 April 2009 13:5118763UPDATE FROM DTC:
WAR MEMORIAL GARDENS
Thank you very much for contacting the Town Council with your views concerning a proposal put forward by the Events Committee of the Town Council. Your views are most welcome and helpful.
For your information, among the Town Council's specific aims, one is to be forward-looking and a second is to ensure transparency of decision-making, by communicating and consulting with our townsfolk, on all important issues. This explains why we have started this consultation process concerning possible future plans.
However, such has been the initial negative response that I can confirm that, at the full Town Council meeting on the 25 March 2009, I withdrew the suggestion, requesting the Town Council not to proceed any further with this conceptual proposal, thus enabling the matter to be re-addressed by my Committee in due course.
I would wish to stress that Dover Town Council takes its responsibilities extremely seriously concerning the general concept of Remembrance and our War Memorial and gardens. This is witnessed by the Council's support for the first phase of the Dover War Memorial Project itself. Further you will have seen the efforts we make to support the Royal British Legion for the Poppy Appeal and for Remembrance Sunday itself. Shortly, we will be organising the annual commemoration of the Zeebrugge Raid to be held on the 23rd April 2009, and to which you would be most welcome.
On a personal note, I would also add that one of my relatives is named on the War Memorial. Accordingly, both personally and as a Councillor, you will appreciate that under no circumstances would we wish to negatively affect our homage to the fallen.
Accordingly, I repeat that the matter has been withdrawn from consideration. Thank you again for your help and opinion.
Yours sincerely
Councillor Mrs V Philpott
Chairman - Events CommitteeBeen nice knowing you :)
